Over the past few decades, the number of Americans who identify as religiously unaffiliated—often referred to as “nones”—has grown rapidly. In the 1970s, only about 5% of Americans fell into this category. Today, that number exceeds 25%. Scholars have debated whether this change simply reflects a general decline in belief, or whether it signals something more complex. The research team wanted to explore the deeper forces at play: Why are people leaving institutional religion? What are they replacing it with? And how are their personal values shaping that process?

  • WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works
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    Well, my whole life, I’ve lived in a society where organized Christianity has overwhelmingly been a force for evil, rather than a force for good. Fuck, I straight-up believe that most Evangelical Christians are devil worshipers. If your religion leads you to hate, you aren’t worshiping God, you’re worshiping the Devil.

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      Christianity is, by definition, a cult of human sacrifice.

      Kinda puts the entire faith into perspective.

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            And they’re carcass worshippers. Think about it: they collect and pray to the body parts of different “saints”- hands, legs, skulls. etc. If you look through their own commandments, they’ll be the first on the line to their hell. 😆

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            They wear symbols of a torturous execution device as jewelry, and use it to decorate their homes.

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              I’ve often asked them if the cross was what killed their “god”, what would they be wearing nowadays, if Jizzus was raped by a roman soldier and died as a result of that, but they never answer. 🤣

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          When you’re actively trying to bring about the end of the world, there’s no more apt description.

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          Dooms day death cult.

          Lead by Jesus, the dooms day death cult leader.

          I hear he’s a “good guy.”

          I don’t think dooms day death cult leaders, make believe or not and I just mean a historical grifter non magical, are good people.

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          Well, they were in luck… he’s only mostly dead. If he was all the way dead, it wouldn’t have worked. but Mostly dead? Miracle Max can work with that.

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          Death Cult Armageddon, great Dimmu album. My parents got it for me along with Enthrone Darkness Triumphant for Christmas one year but they wouldn’t buy me Diablo II because Diablo “didn’t fit the theme of the holiday.”

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            In all fairness, Diablo has an entirely different lore than Christianity, I can see where they were coming from. We want to burn Yahweh, not Anu.

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        Not really; one guy died, by his own choice, but came back to life two days later. A real “cult of human sacrifice” would require it as an ongoing practice and for the victims to stay dead.

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          Jesus alone doesn’t make it a death cult. It’s a death cult because the whole religion is predicated on death. Dying is the entire point. Your entire life is a means to gain the rewards of dying and only then will you truly be happy.

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          Just because there was only one sacrificial offering doesn’t mean jesus wasn’t a sacrificial offering.

          The whole thing about jesus being both fully god and fully man is that no “normal” human would ever be sinless- and therefore would be an inadequate sacrifice. Therefore god became man- that is, jesus- whose sole purpose was to be a “perfect” sacrifice.

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            But isn’t the whole trinity thing God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit the same entity? So God sacrificed himself for himself… wouldn’t really call a two day nap for some eternal being a sacrifice either.

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              This was always my biggest struggle growing up in a catholic house. “He sacrificed himself to save everyone who came before and will come after.”

              Like, is that really that big of a deal? Shit if i was presented with the option of a much smaller number than infinity, idk say 1000, id sacrifice myself. AND i don’t know that I’m god or that my father is god and that ill be taken care of for all eternity.

              In all reality, that numbers way less than 1000 for strangers, and if you include anyone i know/care about, that number could be as low as 1.

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                He set ad and eve up, too. He meant for them to eat the dam fruit,

                All so he could LARP as the White Knight™️.

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      No. The christian God is evil. They’re doing exactly as their religion demands.

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      If your religion leads you to hate, you aren’t worshiping God, you’re worshiping the Devil.

      And this is how wars between religions start…

      Maybe try to move away from that God/Devil thing. It’s a foolish, naive, human-centered worldview.

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        Ok, we can restate it. If your religion leads you to hate, you aren’t on the side of good, you’re on the side of bad?

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          alright, but is the world really as black and white as that? Is there really a clear Good Side, and a clear Bad Side?

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    Part of this is just that the socially conservative pressure to fit in has eased. Time was you had to be “religious” to fit in to communities and it was seen as part of American identity.

    I find it hard to believe 75% of Americans are religious. In the UK 37% identify as non religious. 45% identify as Christian yet churches have emptied our and most young people only end up in one for marriages or funerals. People say they’re Christian but I have no doubt a large chunk of those people are just ticking a box on a census form as it’s part of their identity.

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    I support a few religious organizations through volunteer work.

    My rules for these organizations are simple:

    1. The religion takes a back seat to helping the community
    2. They’re not preachy or trying to convert people
    3. They don’t diddle little kids.

    You’d think it’ll be easy to meet that criteria.

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      Yeah I used to think ‘‘how do Catholics manage to keep going?’’ Then my church fought a lawsuit to get them to report child abuse, then bought insurance to buffer any financial loss they might incur while protecting child rapists. I feel like Jesus telling people that if they feel like hurting kids they should stop, take a deep breath, and commit suicide, kind of forbids this sort of behavior.

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    there is literally nothing that religion can provide that can’t be gotten without religion

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      I guess messed up ideas about sexuality and consent in general aren’t strictly under their purview. Or, subservience to arbitrary authority figures.

      What about rape in a rectory? Probably doesn’t happen too often outside of a religious context.

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      That hasn’t become any more or less true in recent years, though. It’s worth asking why people are now thinking of the idea differently than they did for the past several thousand

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        Well I suppose there’s still no proof that there never was a so-called “divine Y-chromosome” as believed in by Christians, but before we knew about DNA, or even human cells, the ridiculous legends of religion were definitely harder to refute. The ridiculousness of those legends was a big part of their power - the more stupid and unhinged a religious story appears to us today, the more in awe believers would have been about it 300 or 400 years ago.

        So while religion hasn’t become less real in recent years, it has become a lot easier to point out its absurdities.

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    I feel like the unloved sect is really the unitarian universalists. They’re basically a doctrine free “church” of social justice. Like, I love going sometimes and just getting more advice on how to be an excellent human to others. And then we have snacks.

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    Lmao because it’s horse shit that’s why

    Source: me, a 37-yo exmormon who was all-in, true believer, until his mid 20s.

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    No no no, this ancient religion from the Middle East based off of several other cultures mythology is the TRUTH!

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    The faster the better. It’s fundamentalists creating a lot of the problems in the world as they try to force their beliefs on others.

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    Good for them.

    These ancient lies designed for crowd control have been horrible these past thousand years.

    Not that modern political groups or sects etc are much better…

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      i just want to point out that medieval christianity was actually fine. it helped the people live good lives.

      the issues began around 1500, when political pressures caused europeans to go to america, and later in 1800 with the industrial revolution.

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    Better understanding of the physical world than previous generations, for one thing. That and the advent of TV and Internet made it much harder to hide the hypocrisy and crimes.

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    My guess is that the extreme hatred flowing out of outspoken “Christians” in the US is a huge turn-off, as it should be.