• Siegfried@lemmy.world
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        21 days ago

        I would like to buy a bier to this dude and ask him what he thinks about the dead internet theory

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            Worst thing is, they don’t make that much more money than some repeatable manual labor, but instead of being useful to the society, they help destroy it.

            Internet was a mistake.

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      21 days ago

      What’s going on here?

      Its this person controlling these devices from a laptop?

      For what purpose? Clicks and likes?

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        Its this person controlling these devices from a laptop?

        On Android, you can enable ADB over Wifi, then you just connect to those IP addresses to share the screen and control the device.

        They use real devices because every devices likely has a separate mobile data running and unique identifiers tied to those device, apps and configuration, which makes them appear authentic users and hence fool automatic spam detection systems.

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    20 days ago

    This explains a lot, like how MAGA is everywhere online but I only ever see a few “in the wild”.

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    From a networking perspective I’m impressed.

    Yeah, high density APs that can handle a lot of clients exist, in theory…but in practice you can’t expect many devices to be simultaneously in-use. Having this many clients per square foot? SNR for those phones must be terrible. Amazing it works.

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      Don’t know why you’re getting down voted. It is indeed impressive that all those WiFi radios are working that close together. There’s another wall of phones behind it, double! Probably more in the room too.

      There’s gotta be 100 phones on that first wall alone, plus double it, so 200. More in the room? Other rooms? Hundreds of phones, all screaming out WiFi, trying to connect.

      From a networking perspective, impressive indeed. Those phones must hate life.

      Edit: heck I bet most consumer grade routers DHCP servers would choke after the first 255 clients (probably much sooner) just from having to change subnets. I’m not a networkologist though so IDK for sure

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        The phones are all wired, so I could imagine they receive LAN via USB-C. That would make the whole setup not that difficult.

        On the other side, these phones don’t need to be all active at the same time. I could imagine that they just switch on the Wifi while interacting with one of the phones.

        Edit: Check out this post. There you can see the USB-to-LAN dongles hanging off the phones.

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          The lan thing makes sense, I could see that. Still an impressive amount of patch cables, if true. Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?

          As for turning WiFi on and off, that could work too, didn’t think of that. But I feel like maybe not? Surely the apps would complain or get suspicious of only connecting to make a quick comment and then disconnecting again, every single time. Or maybe not.

          I just imagine companies trying to fight this somehow, and that would be a suspicious fingerprint.

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            Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?

            for usb-c? $10 each, nonbulk, on aliexpress is what I see, a worthwhile investment for a farm like this

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              Especially considering the price of the phones they are running. Even if they are trashed second-hand ones they will be much more expensive than the adapters.

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            The lan thing makes sense, I could see that. Still an impressive amount of patch cables, if true. Plus those adapters are cheap but not dirt cheap, right?

            You don’t actually need to adapt out of it. There are Ethernet-over-USB switches that output to USB directly. So all you need are USB cables, and you need them anyway to provide power. So all you are doing (compared to just power over USB) is to use an Ethernet-over-USB switch instead of an USB PSU.

            Here’s the first one I found on google: https://www.digi.com/products/networking/infrastructure-management/usb-connectivity/usb-over-ip/anywhereusb

            The one they advertise on that website has 24 USB outputs, but I’m sure you can find bigger ones. And from them you only need a single patch cable to the next proper switch.

            There’s about 100 phones on the panel and another 100 on the other side, so that would be maybe 8 or 9 of these switches, all wired together into a 10 port switch and that one then is fed by a single input line.

            The upside for a setup like this is that the bandwidth requirements per device are minuscule. It’s a lot of devices, but they aren’t doing anything for most of the time. That’s quite the opposite of what we usually plan for when designing a regular network where if we have hundreds of devices we expect them to actually do something as well.

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              This is USB over IP, not IP over USB.

              The product you linked is for USB devices to be able I be used over a network. One common use-case is getting hardware license tokens (on a USB dongle) accessible to a virtual machine…especially when that VM can move dynamically between hosting servers for load-balancing or fail-over.

              The closest I’ve seen is a cart intended for tablets or Chromebooks that gives 60W PD + Ethernet over one USB-C port. So something similar exists. I think with this though, you had to bring your own Ethernet switch.

              I would love to see something like that, but with active cooling and 180-240W PD. And probably dual L6-30s, if not more, to power the damn thing.

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                Then take this one: https://m.made-in-china.com/product/USB-to-Ethernet-8-Ports-Switch-2079770325.html

                But even if you can’t find an off-the-shelf solution for this, it’s trivial to DIY one. One USB controller can feed 127 devices maximum. You’ll obviously need powered USB hubs for that, but that’s not an issue. This works because when you enable USB tethering, the phone can be in USB device mode while getting IP over USB. The main issue here is the routes, but if you use an app that creates a local VPN on the phone to capture the traffic you can then tunnel that traffic through the tethering connection, using it in the reverse direction. Now you only need a PC with many USB controllers (easily done using PCI-E extension cards) and you are done.

                Setup is a little complicated, but you only need to configure it once and then copy it over to all the phones.

                I would love to see something like that, but with active cooling and 180-240W PD. And probably dual L6-30s, if not more, to power the damn thing.

                I haven’t seen any devices so far that can deliver high wattage on multiple ports at the same time, so I think the PD is probably the bigger limit.

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          I can pretty confidently say that usn-c wasn’t used in this photo - posts from around 10 years ago indicate that these are iPhone 5c’s.

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    If I’d be stuck doing this, I’d start writing personalities for the alts.

    This Xiaomi 10s is Greg, his wife Lauren (Pixel 3a) left him because he slapped her eleven years into their marriage. He begged her to come back, but Lauren is too afraid to end up like her friend Emy (Galaxy with flickering screen), to get caught up in the cycle of “leave-forgive”. The ladies are meeting on Friday, posting similar pictures of wine glasses into their feeds.

    Greg sees his son twice a month (an iphone, the small one they stopped making awhile ago). Lately he can’t seem to get rid of the thought that he’s not doing it because he wants to, but because “that’s what fathers do”. The next visit will be his last, he’ll switch to sending cards and racist tweets about Mamdani.

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      Greg is a Xiaomi, wife is a Pixel but his son is an iPhone? I think Lauren has been unfaithful and Greg should get a paternity test

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      There are a lot of programs that try to detect VMs and other unverified environments (e.g. Google’s safety net) to deter bots and fraud.

      Buying physical devices circumvents all that

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      You buy a cheap phone. No need to pay for license, setup anything except a vpn maybe and you are good to go.

      Setting up lots of VM takes a decent computer, some licenses and a know how.

      A phone, you just start it and it connects to a VPN and your good to go.

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    20 days ago

    This has always been known and the morons have always chosen to ignore it. It won’t be different this time.

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    FYI both sides got exposed. Every political account on Twitter is a spammer. No one would use twitter for enjoyment. Not enough hours a day to have a small audience.

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        Seriously, if centrists found out that they were actually right about something, the gloating would be unbearable.

        They spent all of 2024 shrieking that anyone who didn’t love genocide as much as they do was a russian. So if there were actual russians saying that genocide is bad, centrists would never stop crowing about it.