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i don’t want to watch pewdiepie, can someone explain what’s his beef here
Just downloaded it and skimmed by frames… Seems to be a list of reasons to degoogle. Mentions privacy, security, and how Google is extending fingers into everyone’s privacy by browser, password manager, wallet, phone, etc.
Guy’s an ass, but if this gets people on board with degoogling then good for him.
Heartbreaking: one of the most deplorable people in the world made a good point.
The president is pewmypie? I had no idea!
Hey they said one of.
I mean I don’t really consider him a deplorable person… He was a dumb edgy teen 15 years ago that happened to strike a cord with the overwhelming amount of dumb edgy teens on youtube, and strike it rich. I haven’t paid a ton of attention to him, but from what I saw of his linux and gadget crafting videos, it sounds like he’s grown up a fair amount from his days of scream streaming.
He was an edgy teenager deep into his 20’s.
Everyone is a edgy teenager well into their 20s.
As the joke goes, if your 18 your a child, if your 23 your a teenager, if your 29 your 30, if your 34 your late 20s, if your 35 your 35.
Most people in most western worlds don’t even get to start being an adult till they are well into their mid 20s, which means they only START growing up at like 24-25.
It takes years to actually mature. Anyone who understand this has never worked a job that has frequent fresh to the workforce people cycling though frequently.
I was about to respond with this, you’re still in college in your early 20s. Most of us don’t get a four year degree done in actual four years
We got junior devs in their late 20s because they were doing grad school until like 28
Others have pointed out how people keep growing up in their 20s and 30s. But also as a media personality, you can’t ignore the possibility that he’s playing a character on camera. It could legitimately be he just kept acting like his younger self while recording because that pays the bills
If this was a calculated act, that sort of makes things worse.
he’s still swedish though
He emigrated to Japan a few years ago
The infection spreads…
I’ve never watched him, but isn’t he just a Twitch streamer?
If pewdiepie is one of the most deplorable people in the world you know of. You must live in some kind of alternative universe and in paradise.
What’s he done to earn that title really? We live in a world of genocide, pointless wars and rapists.
Slightly right of neutral on a moving train is pretty bad.
The enemy of my enemy or some shit.
Really didn’t like him when he was younger, he was a naive swedish kid that didn’t realize that the dumb shit he said online had ramifications because his audience was so big. He helped platform Ben Shapiro to a younger generation when he had him on his channel for a video, he had that scandal where he said the n word, and then of course the clip where he says the glass ceiling doesn’t exist. It’s clear to me he didn’t realize the cultural and political ramifications of that stuff in America because he was never really exposed to it growing up in Sweden, and he was a cocky 20 something that thought he knew everything.
I hope these days he’s realizing how idiotic some of that shit was and is actually trying to use his platform to make his viewers aware of valid issues rather than spouting off about topics he knows nothing about to his viewers who take his word as truth.
He also paid some Africans to hold an anti-semitic sign. To prove people will do things for money I think?
I think his reasoning was to see how far the sign holding folks would go for money, and they apparently didn’t really have any limits. Should he have done and shown it on youtube is the thing he can be criticized for
That’s pretty apalling.
What kind of following sticks with someone who humiliates people just because they could use extra grocery money? Just because he had so much cash that he could take a voyercation to somewhere unfamiliar to do it?
If he’s come to his senses, fine. Anyway if new users can’t figure out CWs and pronouns… that’s why we have de-fed, block, and filter…
Maybe someone thought genocide imagery and messaging was a ha ha funny toy. I’m not over it, as someone who deals with hatecrimey stuff on the reg.
The entire thesis of that video was “fiver and things like that lead to exploitation of the global poor”, the sign thing was just a catchy clickbait thing.
He’s a dumbass.
Can you write here what was in that sign? That catch clickbaity thing that Felix ordered?
As in, would it violate the terms of service here?
I’ve never watched him (I hated him when he would just scream at video games) but he seems to be a lot more mature these days. He even posted a video on why you should switch to Linux recently
I was surprised that the video was actually quite good.
I disagree. Things seem to get worse when the herds move to them. It’s as if things are good precisely because they aren’t there.
bro, open your mind for a minute. Privacy is for everyone. And we need masses wanting privacy otherwise nothing changes.
I definitely agree with you, but I remember how Digg & then Reddit both went to shit once the masses started to use them. Same with Facebook.
I feel like if we all spread out between multiple platforms, none will become big enough for the enshitification to hit them.
Aha, I understand what you mean. Maybe that’s kind of why fediverse (federation) makes sense. At least with social networks.
I think you’re seeing the wrong causation when it comes to enshittification. FOSS licenses prevent that sort of thing from happening. Linux is already, by far and away, the most popular server OS so consumers moving to it isn’t going to make it worse.
I dunno, maybe be less of a hipster bestie?
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend”
He switched to linux a while back. Now he’s trying to switch as much of the rest of his digital life to FOSS/non-profit stuff. He advocates for duckduckgo, firefox, paid email, graphene os, selfhosted vaultwarden, nextcloud, anything but google maps, kodi, etc.
anything but google maps, kodi, etc.
You had me unti kodi was lumped in with google maps?
“anything but google maps” is its own list item, not starting a new list. That list just doesn’t have a googlemaps alternative in mind so they used that.
yeah, that was ambiguously worded.
I don’t think they’re including Kodi with Google maps, I think they’re just continuing with the list.
yeah. poorly worded.
You need to work on that reading comprehension.
But not Youtube. Which is Google.
Curious.
I mean…not that curious. It’s his entire livelihood at the moment.
So it’s “You get off Google but not me! And keep subsidizing me!”?
It’s about 15% more understandable, but still, the same crap I expect by default from that kind of person.
Letting perfection be the enemy of the good is why we can’t have nice things.
I’m loving Pewdie’s redemption arc
has he stopped “accidentally” naziing?
I really don’t get how so many people here are so happy that a Nazi is using Linux and doesn’t like Google anymore. That’s not the kind of clown I’d want representing or being a spokesperson for my interests and it’s really making me second guess the people here.
Edit: @nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 's comment has provided info I didn’t have, and recontextualizes the attitudes here I wasn’t understanding, so now I get why there’s support for this.
Grow up. he did.
Might wanna take your own advice. For example, instead of making a drive by shit post, you could have done what another commenter did and actually explain why people are on board with this guy. That person’s comment had me reconsider my position. Your comment just makes you look like an ass.
started with minecraft & redstone, now linux & degoogling, can we extrapolate that in some years pewd’s gonna start hrt lol
I was just thinking about this: more evidence of the Minecraft to Linux self hosting pipeline.
That’s going to be one long arc though
Is it though? I never paid any attention to him, so I only know that one time he made some kids make a sign with heil Hitler or something like that (which from what I’ve read was just a joke in bad taste, he isn’t a nazi or major racist). Otherwise, I haven’t heard anything bad about him, he was just never someone I cared to know more about and watch, seemed to be mostly for kids. Please, correct anything I’ve said if I’m wrong.
He has had some serious run ins with controversy like the bridge incident and a shooter co-opting the T-Series fake beef but beyond that it’s basically people reacting seriously to him aping Filthy Frank, in my opinion I think he’s made good enough on not shooting himself in the foot now, mostly probably cuz he’s a Dad now and trying to ape Filthy Frank is too much effort.
Er. ‘I am done with Google’. Watch the video on YouTube…
I mean where else is he going to reach the most YouTube/Google users?
For Pewdiepie this makes a lot of sense, he was literally the top youtuber. But uploading also somewhere else (no exclusivity required) needs to become mainstream yesterday. We have technical colleges far from the US posting educational video content for a website embed on youtube only, it’s madness 😅
Exactly!
Download the video before YouTube takes it down. I want to see that site flooded with reuploads if they do.
I don’t care about his content, but I downloaded for historical preservation. If you’re willing to watch can you explain the beef?
I just use down sub to pull the transcript from his video It’s only 60% as annoying.
He has the normal privacy versus cost worries which are reasonably valid. Then he rambles on, plugs a product that he’s shilling that’s unrelated to the subject matter, says he’s replacing Google search with a local LLM, does some hot takes on alternatives, does some reasonable takes on some alternatives.
To be honest, this is probably the least helpful de-googling video I’ve seen, other than the fact that he’s a major influencer and is telling everyone they should be doing it.
Upload it to Framatube and other YouTube Alternatives
It will stay up. Do you know how many YouTube videos there are badmouthing Google? They don’t care so long as you’re watching them.
All I know is they took down the ones by LTT and Jeff Geerling, I can only assume it was due to the larger audience those two attracted. Now imagine PewDiePie…
Linus did 3 videos on “how to degoogle your life” and only 1 was taken down. That one told people how to circumvent YouTube’s platform and monetary system which violated the community guidelines.
That’s very cool indeed – although I dread the moment he starts talking to his followers about Lemmy.
It would be a larger influx of bullshit than even Reddit was able to pull off.
I mean, I don’t know of him now… he’s way older and, seems significantly less immature than he was in the past, it’s possible a good portion of his fanbase has also grown to be more tolerable.
I think it’s ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.
Thise are just different flavors. I need a pixel 8 pro xl equivalent device that runs linux natively. All thw postmarket phones are ancientx
Ditch Google
Step 1: Send them money
Used phones: exist
Users who constantly repost this same comment: “doesn’t look like anything to me.”
Used pixel actually limit a lot the choice. I’ve not dived into de-googled phone yet but from what I understood postmarketOS seems like the used/old phone OS
LineageOS works on a bunch of non google phones
Same reason it continually sucks to get a working Linux build on an apple laptop or desktop.
As bad as Google is, they’re lightyears ahead of Apple in terms of protecting their products in a walled garden.
Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.
I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.
There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Your own domain, but you’re safer not hosting your own email servers in general. Just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this. If your mail server is down you don’t get mail 🫠
I ended up using a service that isn’t Google for that with my own domain
And soft lock yourself… log in to the DNS portal you need 2FA from your email… while your email is having DNS issues lol
Despite the lack of content we should mention peertube any time possible to increase knowledge of it, if nothing else
Your own domain for email hosting is a massive pain in the ass. Have you not run into a million problems with other hosting providers refusing you for possibly spam?
Self hosting an email server is a pain in the ass and I don’t really recommend it.
Buying your own domain and using it in whatever email provider you want is very easy and gives you ownership over the email address. You may switch providers freely without needing anyone else to do anything.
I wasn’t self hosting. I was just talking about your own domain, which caused me serious problems when flagged for spam.
Edit: I’m guessing it’s easier nowadays but I still carry that pain lol
That’s not an issue with a custom domain name, but one of the other parts you run into, SPF and DKIM dns settings being correct and the reputation of whatever SMTP server’s ip address is. No one spam-bins based just on random domain names, or every business would freak out. You can also use your own domain on Google, Microsoft, or Apples ecosystems, not that you need to, there are plenty of providers that will host your email. I like runbox.
Oh shit is that what the issue was??? Thank you for explaining! I thought it was literally blacklisted like that. I told those worthless dumbfucks to whitelist my domain and that shit just kept happening—and they made me do all the work every time. It was exhausting and frustrating. I’ll look into runbox, thanks again.
I wonder if there might be some super common spam tlds like .xyz or .ru or something, but generally, yeah, custom domain isn’t the issue. Some other options are Migadu, mailbox.org, mxroute, and Tuta all seem like decent companies. A lot of others “also do” email hosting, like porkbun and OVH. Plenty of companies host their email with all these companies and have mostly clear sailing without being spam binned.
Throwing it out there - I am tired of left always acting as if something done decade ago was still fresh. Pewds changed, he flipped his whole video formula, and even back then evil things he did were at least questionable. Let it go folks. You are doing nothing else than making yourself look like bitter old people.
Edit: I noticed it’s not obvious what I am talking about. Other comments. People constantly talking about how Pewds is a nazi.
There is the expected amount of negativity in the comments, but also more positivity than I expected.
I watched the video. I am not really a fan of the style, I don’t agree with all of the content. But damn, a big influencer is using his reach to talk about retaking privacy and control in your online life. It can be such a difficult subject to pitch without sounding crazy. I think the video existing is great and pushes general awareness in the right direction.
Other than hearing his name, I’ve never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one’s life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we’ve all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe…I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.
He never was. When teenagers used to scream n-word for shit and giggles, he was monetarily incentivised to do stupid stunts. No belief behind, other than to have a laugh and jump in views. When he crossed the line and was critised for it, he backed off, apologised and learned from his mistakes.
But people love draging it out each and every single time he does anything, be it good or bad.
… what?
they’re responding to other comments, like about Pewdiepie being a nazi.
People on Lemmy really just suck. So much snobby negativity
So is he a nazi or not?
In short, a bunch of years ago he did some stunts for publicity that put him in a bad light. And don’t get me wrong, he deserved criticism back then. But it quickly became apparent that it wasn’t his view, but just that - a publicity stunt, something to drive algorithms etc, and he also apologised for it and what’s more important, didn’t make similiar shit afterwards.
So no, not a nazi. In the past you could call him edgy or something, alas even that doesn’t really fit as he didn’t do this all the time. But people saw he is popular and saw what he did and decided that no matter that these were one-offs, he must be a nazi, secretely harbor a shrinet o Hitler and all that.
Do you want to continue posturing and fishing for confirmation from other edgy teenage minds, or do you want the answer?
? I want the answer. I am not sure if you are saying he is a nazi or he is not.
I seriously doubt that anyone who asks that question doesn’t already have a foregone conclusion, but fine, I’ll indulge you.
Probably not. If he was, and had been hiding it his entire life, even in the era when he was the youtube star and had zero restraint, why would he slip up those few times, and especially such highly public ways?
He did and said some shit in his early 20s, and he deserved the criticism at the time, but those incidents weren’t repeated and weren’t part of a pattern. He wasn’t the paragon of virtue and maturity, but I’m willing to bet my left nut that neither are the people who are lining up to crucify him, and the only difference is that he had an audience. The people who aren’t willing to let go of their prejudices after a decade are equally as immature.
It’s kind of sad that you’re so terminally online that you think that everyone else must know who the hell this guy is. All I know about him is that he’s some YouTuber I have never watched any of his content nore have I really heard anything about any controversy.
I don’t even know this guy at all and what this is all about. That’s why I didn’t understand your post but it made me curious. Apparently this youtube guy is accused of being a Nazi because of things he said in his 20s which only came out after he became famous?
Not the person you’re replying to, but honestly I don’t pay attention to pop culture shit, so I’d ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it’s good to see info. Don’t assume people know things like that. Just assume they don’t and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂
In case you aren’t familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.
The discourse goes to the same fucking place every time Felix is mentioned. People don’t deserve the benefit of doubt.
? Who is Felix? Is that pewdipie?
Did this go to the same place?
Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.
Its decent except google amdoid aosp policy changes are screwing it over
Yeah, part of why I want to get one soon is to have a semi recent phone before they can’t do graphene properly anymore
what’s stopping you? was the very first thing I did, don’t regret it for a second – https://ocv.me/b/img/IMG_20230811_121845_049.1ssy.jpg “i’m about to finish setting up my pixel alright” :p
The cost of buying a pixel is the only thing stopping me. I don’t have enough to replace my aging phone with much of anything, let alone a pixel.
You can save quite a bit by getting a refurbished Pixel - looks like the cheapest “Google certified” option (so it comes with a 1-year warranty) is a 6a for $250, which is nearly half off MSRP. I’ve been using my 6a since launch, so it’s been going for 3 years now and I have no desire to upgrade.
You can definitely get cheaper smartphones, but $250 for a 6a feels like a pretty big bang for your buck.
i got 8a for 300 thats prob one of the best deals
It was incredibly easy to do and a refurbished pixel 8 is way cheaper than a new phone.
They are also way too small in terms of storage given that they don’t support external cards (Apple is similar). Google/Apple definitely want buyers to also buy their subscription storage services or pay the high premium for the next storage level.
I’m on an XR right now and it feels older, but still very much usable. I wish companies offered options to only get security patches instead of having to buy new phones every few years, that’s the 1 thing I hope Google keeps around and doesn’t walk back in the future.
If there’s an article with words, can you pass it along? I’m not inclined to go on a Google website and listen to someone slowwwwly tell me why Google is bad.
Life’s too short to listen to people who talk slow.
Articles too much time too, so I made you this
- Google bad, tracking sucks
- Android -> graphene
- Keep -> joplin
- Docs -> nextcloud
- Gmail -> proton
- GMaps -> car GPS
- Tailscale
- Selfhosted on SteamDeck
GMaps -> car GPS
What? No. OSM or literally anything else than a fucking car. Stars and sextant.
Cars steels more data than google
That’s funny I’ve been DONE with poopoopie for a few years. Somehow people keep pushing this creep.
Accurate once again
Correlation is not causation.
One million hours in gimp
I just subscribbed to him
For the first time
Wasn’t interested in his old content but these new videos are fire and he has a very nice personality and overall amazing video quality. I inderstand why he was number 1 for so many years
He has some more mature videos where he reviews books and tours around the world. Sometimes not so mature, he plays Minecraft or calls another YouTube channel bitch lasagna, and that can be fun too.
“calls another YouTube channel bitch lasagna” that was years ago right? These days he seems more calm and almost no toxicity whatsoever other than rarely saying shit, fuck, or generic swear word.
Pewdiepie, don’t go to the bridge!
Agreed, he is doing a lot better now.
