I was talking to one of my friends and he mentioned staying home on July 4, citing how there are a lot of really ugly things going on in the US.

After thinking about this myself, I’m starting to feel the same way. Instead of being proud of the country, I’m feeling like I’m just another wallet that companies and the government are trying to suck all the money out of.

The cost of living is going up, the housing market is a nightmare, I don’t feel very confident in our government at all, the job market is a nightmare…

I think I’ll be staying home this year too… anyone else?

        • thefluffiest@feddit.nl
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          3 months ago

          Hmm let me see. True former colonies include Cuba, the Philippines and Liberia. The Panama Canal Zone. Hawaii was unceremoniously annexed, as were Guam and Puerto Rico. And a host of smaller islands.

          In a broader sense, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq are also very happy they’re once again independent from the US.

          In an even broader sense, most US allies are working for independence from the unreliable US as we speak.

          • jaybone@lemmy.zipEnglish
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            3 months ago

            I was asking which countries have independence days that celebrate independence from the US.

            The Philippines celebrates their independence from Spain.

            Vietnam celebrates their independence from France.

            I won’t bother going on, but nice try though.

    • MudMan@fedia.io
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      3 months ago

      We have one of those, and it’d be creepy even if historically it wasn’t debatable that the event itself was for the better.

      • treadful@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        3 months ago

        Fair enough, I just disagree. Gaining independence seems to me like a positive thing worth celebrating. I’m happy whenever I see an ex-colony celebrating their day.

        Not saying we Americans don’t take it a little far, but hey, it’s the one day where you can be patriotic without that creepy vibe.

        • MudMan@fedia.io
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          3 months ago

          Yeah, well, that depends on who gained independence from whom and whether you think you’re independent now. Also on whether you’d be indepedendent from any guys who’d like to be independent from the now guys if they were to be independent.

          See, political independence for a group requires that you align with the idea the group has of itself. I don’t know that I have that overlap with any particular political delineation, so I may need an organization a touch more nuanced than an independent, sovereign nation-state.

          Also, gonna need some citation on the lack of creepy vibe, as mentioned above.