I often wondered how nazi germany happened given the democracy and find myself caught up in the process despite my best efforts and the efforts of many people I know.
The only efforts that matter going forward is for people now to give up their own comfort to secure the future for others. Either we trust each other with our lives or we forfeit our futures to authoritarian rule. I maybe only have another 30-40 years left. 20 years of “healthy” living. Its not me who’s losing out big.
Id happily donate those years to a cause that was real and not just talk. If my only choice is to lead it myself, fine, but someone needs to start following.
I don’t think people need to give up comfort. At least not to any reasonable level. We need to make it so that we are doing things efficiently. Passive housing using geothermal/solar/wind and such. People able to afford to live where they can be carless.
The comfortable will never rebel. No one is going to give you those things and we can’t build them without dismantling the current system. You’re going to have to get supremely uncomfortable in order to give others the possibility of having those things at some indeterminate time in the future or face a dystopian future so bleak that it will make The Hunger Games seem like a fun vacation. Either way, comfort is rapidly fading from the picture.
Death, mostly death.
Violent protests probably. Even republicans don’t want fascism. But there is nothing we can do without a hero assassin… At least 3 of them actually.
Even republicans don’t want fascism.
They don’t? How can you tell?
Well fascist were socialist and socialism is communism, so obviously.
/s
Am I missing some elementary knowledge? How is fascism resemblant to socialism?
I think they’re making a joke (what with the /s), but some people will say that since “Nazi” is derived from “national socialist” it’s a form of socialism. Usually people making that claim are arguing in bad faith and/or are grossly misinformed.
Violent protests
this is what the fascists want. any excuse whatsoever to declare martial law, impose curfews, ‘papers, please’ checkpoints, and ‘papers, please’ thugs going door to door, looking for anyone they don’t like so they can send them to the concentration camp.
thoughtcrime doesn’t entail death, thoughtcrime is death
don’t act like they’re not going to do that anyway. if no one rises up and does real damage, they’ll stage something and enact martial law
I keep hearing this so often “they will take any opportunity to declare martial law” this so often its starting to sound like autogenocide
yeah, that’s a weak reason against violent protests. stronger ones are:
- the violence is often misdirected at people not able to bring change, eg. small businesses or cars.
- the violence exhausts protesters. many of them being crippled or killed by police, until the protests are suppressed by too few motivated protesters being left.
btw cops love violent protests. they get to kill maim and torture more people than usual. it’s what many of them signed up for and look forward to with excitement. sometimes they have off duty cops in plain clothes infiltrating protesters to start the carnage. all it takes is throwing one stone near a collegue with shield and helmet to give him an excuse to go on a rampage against innocent protesters, while the infiltrator sneaks off
I really love this meme. The self-defeating attitude that’s been perpetuated by team Dem of "We’ve tried nothing that could potentially be useful and are all out of ideas!” has been swallowed wholesale, by us. Will getting ourselves out of this trap be painful, disfiguring for some, deadly for others? Sure. The other option is self-suffocating, slowly. Drowning by self-waterboarding.
Hey where did they get that picture of me!?
Better check your phone bro, I think they might be spying.
i thought @Asafum@feddit.nl knew, Asafum was waving at the wall just yesterday so i took a pic
We’re already at the thoughtcrime stage…
Funny how Republicans online were the ones crying about that, but now they’re salivating at the idea of deporting Mamdani for the crime of being a socialist. Can’t have those political opinions, that’s wrongthink!
He’s not a socialist.
In fascist USA anyone not actively licking the boot of a billionaire is a socialist!
Might wanna check how long the line of succession is
The (significantly delayed) Bell Riots.
A big ol pile of shit.
Brain drain. It’s already started. Academics, scientists, and researchers are moving to Canada or Europe to do their work. As shit gets worse, the upper and middle classes will start to do the same. The underprivileged and undereducated will fight for the scraps of what’s left.
Actually the lower class has a bit better chance. If you have no home to sell or money to transfer over leaving is a bit easier. If you have enough to set yourself up and then sell what you have that makes it easy. So its like people barely affording their mortgages or have decent jobs that would be hard to replace that get stuck until its to late.
Actually the lower class has a bit better chance.
gtfo
If you have no home to sell or money to transfer over leaving is a bit easier.
In what world does having no money make it easier to move to another country?
People have been radicalised by radical leftism this is just the pendulum swinging back the other way.
Lol. If you are in the us you have no idea what leftism is
It always amazes me how radical leftism keeps moving further right. Once upon a time radical leftism meant UBI and immediate radical action on climat change. Now ‘radicall’ leftism is anything left of squads of armed men kidnapping people off the street.
Yeah, Lemmy, what does the future look like?
Bull. I don’t even get to have a double jump implant installed but I still have to deal with corpofascism. This is all a total rip-off.
Eventually, the world will get tired of our shit and do something about it. It will not be pretty. Mainly economic suffocation…. That’s the only way the rest of the world can hurt the US.
Eventually we will get tired of our shit and do something about it. TF would others help us while we refuse to help ourselves? The rest of the world will contain us, much to the sociopathic capitalist class’ delight.
Things are going to get real fucky.
Those in power will be unable to trust each other and their employees even less. We may end up living where we work.
Diseases will be widespread, and no care will be offered to anyone but the privileged.
Famine, likely entirely manufactured, will cause massive amounts of starvation.
Modern conveniences will be slowly lost. Cars will be falling apart because no one can afford mechanics, and the lack of vehicle regulations leads to excessive accidents.
Planes will break up midaire. Widespread blackouts when shit goes sideways. Forget about medicine.
Waterways will be polluted beyond what can be boiled. Breathing in big cities will be hazardous. They will say “efficiency” but not one instance of efficiency will be observable.
Kids showing academic excellence will be abducted and sent to special indoctrination schools so that they can only benefit the regime.
Women will have rights removed. All men will have to do a two year duty in war. Church attendance will be reported to the government.
I have more ideas but I’ll stop there
Strikes me that you’ve forgotten about the rest of the world.
The rest of the world isn’t coming to help as long as we only hurt those within our borders. No one stood up to the Nazis until they started moving on other countries, even though they were already known to be committing atrocities. The rest of the world is just going to cut us off and let us burn, most of the world hates the U.S. and only plays nice for economic and military reasons.
That’s true, but some of your dystopian ideas require the entire planet to fall into collapse and ruin. Eventually the odds are pretty good that the rest of the world (assuming we’re in decent shape ourselves) will start to provide humanitarian aide to the US.
And stating that “most of the world hates the U.S.” is definitely a sign that you don’t quite understand how we feel about the US.
I guess I’ve just given up and assume everyone would just cut us off. I’ve really only seen negativity twords the US, so that colors my view. There’s also my buddy from Japan who advised me to say I was Canadian when traveling internationally due to the negativity he’s seen directed at the US when he’s traveling Asia and Europe.
I guess I’ve just given up and assume everyone would just cut us off. I’ve really only seen negativity twords the US, so that colors my view. There’s also my buddy from Japan who advised me to say I was Canadian when traveling internationally due to the negativity he’s seen directed at the US when he’s traveling Asia and Europe.
Speaking as a Canadian, your friend from Japan can fuck right off.
Even the good people from the US (and there absolutely are some - some of my dearest friends are from SoCal) are not Canadian, and either (a) can’t pull it off, or (b) skew the rest of the world’s view of Canadians.
So please don’t.
