I didn’t say you killed the animals, I said people who eat meat are responsible for the deaths of the animals they consume. That’s just a fact. If people didn’t purchase tasty meat to consume, other “Psychos” wouldn’t raise them for others to consume. I understand that it’s much easier to let someone else ‘do the dirty work’, believe me I know.

As for people who kill their own meat (or your meat) being ‘psychos’ I can tell you that it’s obviously not the case. Hunting culture grew from the time when it was necessary to hunt to provide for your family, and that is the spirit that it’s carried out in today. People don’t hunt because they think it’s great fun to murder innocent creatures. It’s about providing for your family, friends, and community. I just saw a post on Facebook from my ex-BIL and he was talking about a buck he just got while hunting. It was a post thanking ‘the lord’ for the provisions.

It’s just a way of life in rural America. We don’t do it to be cruel, we do it as a way to not have to rely solely on supermarkets to provide for ourselves. If we ever do have a ‘Y2K’ style situation (and let’s be honest- that isn’t a crazy idea) knowing how to catch, clean, and cook wild game would be a valuable and sought after skill. A lot of poor people in rural areas do depend on hunting and fishing to supplement their diets.

Most hunters are (directly or indirectly) conservationists as well. It’s in their best interest to maintain a healthy and flourishing population of animals (not just game animals- web of life and all that). Hunting is strictly regulated by the state to ensure that the animals don’t become overpopulated or over hunted.

Overpopulation would quickly become a huge problem (not just for humans, but for the environment and the animals themselves) if it’s not well regulated. In fact the South has a massive problem on their hands with wild boar atm. They are an invasive species so it’s not quite the same thing, deer for example will become overpopulated very quickly.

We have (to our detriment) eliminated most or in a lot of case all natural predators for larger game animals like deer, so in order to be good stewards of the environment we have to have another way of controlling their populations. I can’t really think of a better way to do it than have people in the community do ‘the work’ for free (in fact they pay for the privilege) and filling their bellies at the same time- while also reducing our dependence on factory farms.

The analogy to climate change doesn’t really work. It’s not really individuals who are the problem there, it’s the choices giant corporations and government makes in the name of profits that are the real issue. Most people if given a choice between a lifestyle that is sustainable and responsible would choose to do so, we are just given so little choice in that regard. Not eating meat is a choice that, especially nowadays, anyone could easily accomplish.

If a new meat product showed up in grocery stores called ‘Long Pork’ that was the tastiest meat ever, but people found out that it was human flesh- would you consider the people who continued to eat the meat to be complicit in the murder of said ‘livestock’? Especially if you knew for a fact that if everyone stopped eating it- the murders would stop?

I don’t think it would be the same thing at all. I wouldn’t go out of my way to create an emotional bond with a critter I raised to be food. In fact im pretty sure I would intentionally not do that.

Im not saying that it might not accidentally happen, I am a softie and an animal lover. If it did I probably wouldn’t be capable of eating it.

You seem to feel pretty strongly about this, don’t you think its at least a little hypocritical to be ok with killing and eating an animal, as long as you personally aren’t delivering the killing blow? You are every bit as responsible for the deaths of the animals you eat as the person at the slaughter house.

I have no issues with people refusing to kill an animal on ethical grounds (reducing the harm from factory farming was a big consideration for the change in my diet) but you aren’t doing that.

It just seems like a weird stance to judge me for doing something you are also doing, but by proxy. If you hire someone to kill someone else, you would still get charged with murder. The same logic applies here.

I would. If I eat meat I am responsible for taking that animals life, whether or not it’s me that performs the killing blow. At least I know if I do it, it will be as quick and painless as I am able to make it. In the case of hunting, I would take some comfort in knowing it lived free and not in a cramped cage in a factory farm or something. If I was able to raise my own animals, I would give them the best and happiest life I was able to give them, and also end their life as painlessly as I could manage when it was time for that.

I wouldn’t at all enjoy the act of killing, but I feel like it shows at least a little respect for the life of the animal that I am willing to take the responsibility to do it myself, precisely because it is a hard thing to do. I would never have eaten meat if I wasn’t wiling to do the killing myself.

I recently switched to a Pescetarian diet, partly so I can stop supporting factory style farming. I know it’s an anthropocentric pov but Its easier for me to kill fish and other sea creatures than land critters, but I still try to be as humane as possible when doing it.

I will never eat anything in the Dolphin, Whale, or Octopus families, which is another anthropocentric thing, and I guess it made me a hypocrite because I did eat pork and they are intelligent too. I am trying to reduce the harm I do at least.

Another idea: have ‘lending libraries’ for hobbies. Leave your art supplies and check out a keyboard and a Ukulele. Donate leather-working tools and while you are there you can use the 3D printer. Kind of like a cross between a maker space and a book library.

Smaller libraries might be able to combine the two ideas. I know you used to be able to check out video cameras and AV equipment before everybody phone did that at my library.

This way creative people in the community who otherwise couldn’t afford to express themselves could have access to the tools to do so. I could make more room in my house by donating the art supplies to people who I know will use it… at least until they get bored of that and want to try something else.

I could see people holding classes there in how to use the tools properly, or even just hanging out to give advice to people who want it.

Beating up the bully requires one to be capable of such when the bully may be larger and physically imposing and part of a group then not getting treated as the guilty party afterward

I was small for my age up until 10th grade. Bullies would look at how small I was and decide I was an easy target, so they would start in on me. One thing you have to realize is that bullies aren’t bullies because they are tough and good at fighting, they pick on the smallest, ‘weakest’ kids they can find- so being a great fighter isn’t nearly as important as being willing to fight back in the first place. The point isn’t to beat them up, it’s to make them think twice about picking on you. If there is a chance they will get hurt, even if they end up winning the fight, they will always just move on to the next victim who wont fight back.

Between 5th grade and 10th grade I got into 1 fight every year. A kid who didn’t know me would try to bully me, and I would defend myself. I never lost a fight, not because I was a badass or anything, but the teachers would break up the fights before it progressed too far. I would always get in trouble with the school, but never with my parents who taught me it was ok to defend myself (but not start fights). When word got around that about the fight, I wouldn’t get picked on the rest of the school year. When the next year rolled around it was either a new student, or I was the new student. Someone who didn’t know me basically who would try to bully me.

You just have to ask yourself- would you rather accept the bullying and allow it to continue, or risk getting beat up by fighting back and getting in trouble- but putting a stop to it.

an option that a lot of immigrants don’t have.

Especially when a lot of the same type of people will throw a fit if an ‘immigrant’ doesn’t do everything they can to assimilate.

We already live in clown world. We are beyond parody.

What’s there to negotiate? Once the fascists and the liberals are out of the way the Marxists and Anarchists can start a stateless society based on mutual cooperation. It’s a win-win.

It’s the same thing. The workers work, management just makes sure the workers work.

You’re the hero the company doesn’t deserve, but the one it needs right now.

I was looking at some PC’s at Best Buy and a salesman came up to try and give me the hard sell. I asked if I could buy the PC without Windows on it for a discount.

“How would you use your computer without Windows on it?”

“I’m going to install Linux”

“What’s that?”

“It’s an operating system”

Blank stare

“Like Windows or OS X…”

Blank Stare

Sigh “I already have a copy of Windows at home”

“Oh! Well I don’t think you can do that, no.”

안녕!

One day I was headed to my car to go somewhere. A zealot intercepted me and wanted to proselytize to me. I told him thank you but no thank you. He was all like “But have you heard about Jesus Christ?” I said that I was raised a Christian and knew all about it, but I reject it. He still was trying to argue with me so I finally just said “Have a nice day” and walked away as he was still trying to reconvert me. Some of them simply can’t believe you know what they are about but don’t buy into it.

I Will Be Eaten First!

P.S. Thanks for linking to Oglaf, it’s been way too long and I had forgotten about it.

What if you are referring specifically to a female canine, Elton John or Meredith Brooks?

The Sound of a Note

Star War

The Silence of a Lamb

Reservoir Dog

I like it Hot

Tats of Piggies getting shitfaced.

The AI will truly have to be able to think for themselves first. Whoever has written their parameters has done an impressive job of adding apologia into the algorithms about any religious topic.

Me: Does the bible say X?

AI: Yes

Me: Does the bible also say Y? (the literal opposite of X)

AI: Yes

Me: Doesn’t that mean the bible is inconsistent in this regard?

AI: Well you have to understand the cultural context of the time and be sure to approach such topics with sensitivity and blah…blah…

That’s weird, I don’t remember Barbara being that short. 🤔

Why couldn’t the señorita have babies?

Because her husband had a Hallowpiner!

…🦗🦗🦗… Ill see myself out.