There are over 70 confederate monuments in the state of Florida; none of which are yet painted in rainbow colors.
Pride and Prejudice.
I’ll see myself out.
Some confederate soldier statues in full drag kit and face would make quite a spectacle.
So long as conservatives continue to exert exceptional effort to try and erase LGBT identity, people should attack Christian identity in equal measure. Tear down billboards with gospel on them. Deface publicly displayed crucifixes. Burn bibles in public.
Don’t forget to remove churches from your communities…
I believe in proportionality. So long as their current actions stay in damaging inanimate symbols that’s where it should stay. If they were to Remove places significant to LGBT+, then I’d consider it. If they were to start straight up shooting LGBT+ people, well…
These crosswalks were painted specifically in honor of the Pulse massacre where 50 LGBT+ people were murdered in 2016. 25 were injured or killed in a shooting in a Colorado Springs gay bar in 2022.
The shooting has been happening for years already.
The Pulse shooter wasn’t a Christian, so that’s not really a good reason to start tearing down and burning churches.
Which, I can’t believe I need to say this, is bad. I grew up in a small community that embraced Christian homophobic and transphobic abuse as a virtue, I think Christianity on the whole is more negative than positive, and I still wouldn’t destroy a random church because it’s a church. That is fash shit. You don’t target random places of worship because that’s the religion of your enemy. What is this shit.
I apologize, I’m with you on do not attack random churches and should have called that out myself in my first post and can see how what I said could be interpreted as supporting it.
I was trying to point out that LGBTQ+ people are already under physical threat and have been and the first person’s point about waiting until they are getting shot to take further action was passed already. I think the real physical threat is not understood by many. I do not think the action should be burning down random churches.
Christian billionaires do fund a lot of the anti gay conspiracy media. I would specifically focus on those entities.
That is what they want.
Right wing shitheads have been trying to paint themselves as the victims for decades. “The War On Christmas” being one of the best examples. And as much fun as it would be to burn down a church (but not Korean Jesus, that dude is okay), all it will do is provide them the evidence they have been trying to manufacture all this time.
Because news media won’t be reporting “As retaliation for the murder of a trans person, a bible was ceremonially burned”. It will be “The fucking gays are burning your bibles, go get them”
They’ve been riding their train of manufactured victimhood and rage for decades and found great success, they don’t strictly need a reason to abuse people.
Staying your hand because your enemy might get angry and retaliate is the mindset of the battered housewife. People should stand up for themselves even if that means violence in the end.
Ignoring the sexism bordering on mild misogyny:
We’ve literally seen how this plays out. Walz calls trump “weird”. fuckface calls for the murder of Kamala. “Both sides traded barbs”.
The vast majority of christians don’t actually hate The Gays. They insist “I don’t approve of your lifestyle but I tolerate you”/“I don’t respect or tolerate you but I also don’t want to consider myself a bigot”. It is why “bathroom bans” and the like are so popular. They are a direct attack on people’s very self and a way to remove their ability to function in society but they also don’t immediately seem like hate unless you think for even a few seconds.
But once The Gays are outright attacking christianity? Guess what? “Both sides traded barbs” becomes “They are literally coming to destroy your beliefs” and it is a literal holy war.
Or, to go back to your sexism: People love the idea of a victim standing up for themselves. When they do? Suddenly it just becomes “they are both a mess” or “they deserve each other” rather than “She finally struck back after her third visit to the emergency room”.
Everyone wants to act. Not acting is the definition of helplessness. But it is also worth understanding that retaliation is a thing. The call of duty generation loves the idea of being heroic guerilla fighters who scream “wildcats” every five seconds. But it is worth looking at the actual “stay behind armies” and how so much of their equipment and doctrine was designed around resistance without ever pushing things far enough to lead to genocide and eradication. Whether that would have been successful is a very controversial topic but… that is the idea.
Ignoring the sexism bordering on mild misogyny:
Lol. Ok Stretch Armstrong.
The vast majority of christians don’t actually hate The Gays.
If you vote to hurt someone, you hate them. This isn’t complicated.
But once The Gays are outright attacking christianity? Guess what? “Both sides traded barbs” becomes “They are literally coming to destroy your beliefs” and it is a literal holy war.
Shit. So you’re saying if we just left the Nazis alone they would have tolerated the Jews? Lol. I like how you consider direct Christian attacks on LGBTQ people as “tolerance”. They are already actively degrading the quality of life of LGBTQ people. Do you expect people to just sit by and be subjugated in the hopes that they won’t be subjugated harder if they do something?
to go back to your sexism
Oof. You are trying so hard.
People love the idea of a victim standing up for themselves. When they do? Suddenly it just becomes “they are both a mess”
What planet do you live on? When a battered housewife (oh no I’m a sexist now) stands up for herself, I don’t think she’s a mess. What kind of fucked up logic is that? I’m happy for her.
But it is also worth understanding that retaliation is a thing.
Yes, it’s a good thing when you are being oppressed. You are typing lots of words in defense of people not defending themselves. I’m not sure what’s wrong with your brain, but you should fix it or find someone that can help you fix it.
Funny because if they knew their history, the original people that had a war on Christmas was Christians.
In the sense of stealing yule celebrations to attack Germanic people? Yes
In the sense of “Those pagan bastards are defiling the celebration of our lord and savior’s birth”? “The War On Christmas” is a tried and tested method of mobilizing the troops.
Also in the sense of literally trying to outlaw Christmas. The Bible doesn’t describe a Christmas festival and celebration, so many Christians felt that it was improper and unchristian for a very long time.
In the US the only real war on Christmas was fought by Christians. The soviets, the CCP and briefly the French revolutionaries are the only times atheists have actually pushed against it. The Nazis were in favor of a pro-nazi version of Christmas that was more about the state.
Even then. Constantine favored Christianity for the empire and settled “the birth of Christ” during the popular Solstice festivals to gain more traction for people.
But yes I understand what you’re saying and modern “Christians” just love to play victim.
I mean, they’re going to claim it’s happening even if it isn’t. May as well try in that case.
In my city, I always see the stupid billboard that says “THINK GOD” and I always fantasize about climbing up there and putting a big red X on GOD so it just says THINK.
There’s a significant number of LGBTQ+ friendly churches in Orlando. Presumably some of the dead could have been members of those churches. A religious-freedom argument could be made to sue for reinstatement of the memorial. I remember the time UCC and Unitarian churches sued for the right to perform gay marriages in a red state before it became legal nationwide.
But like, other people right? You wouldn’t want to end up in jail yourself.
You got me, officer. I’m a coward who’s all talk, I would never do anything I described.
In the Scandinavian countries there are some folks burning down churches. Food for thought. 🤷♂️
Considering the nature of the Pulse shooting being a hate crime grounded on religious principles, and this is a memorial to that hate crime… it wouldn’t be too surprising if a proportionate response were to occur.
I don’t understand how people aren’t killing each other out right to be honest.
deleted by creator
…a mass shooting that took place LESS THAN A DECADE AGO
What an incredibly efficient use of taxpayer-funded police forces! Should report it to DOGE, they definitely need to cut funding for that
Yep.
We cant give medicine/healthcare that those that need it, cause its to expensive.
We cant give food to those that need it, cause its too expensive.
We can’t provide shelter to those that need it, cause its too expensive.
but somehow, magically, when it comes to the police state and fascism… Theres always an endless waterfall of money.
I guess when one is in a gold-plated conference room with oligarch friends and you collectively have a couple trillion dollars in assets to “protect,” peeling away a few billion to pay some of the poors to shoot the other poors before they take your shit (or your head) seems like a pretty reasonable business expense.
When you look at them as the protectors of capital rather than the protectors of the people, it makes a lot more sense.
i mean, you dont even have to look at it that way.
cause it literally is that.
Police, since the begining, have existed to protect the property of the rich. Not the rights of the poor.
They’ve literally gone to the supreme court to fight against being held accountable to their own “protect and serve” bullshit.
The very first police officers were primarily slave catchers
There’s no IRS, just stop paying taxes…
oh no. not paying taxes is only for the uber rich. For all the poor people, they go straight to jail.
Florida has it own DOGE…
Imagine being so insecure that you have to stop people from having a harmless shrine to a bunch of people killed in a mass murder.
Anyways, there’s a lot of crosswalks and there’s no way they can even long term focus on this crosswalk. Wait for them to leave, do it again.
You bring up a good point here. There are a lot of crosswalks. So what happens if people just start doing this at random crosswalks around the city?
Aha, a crime wave! Deploy the National Guard!
This would be funny if it was not true
I was thinking, what else can we rainbow up while they’re all looking at crosswalks?
Postal boxes? Transformer boxes? Manhole covers? Park walking paths? Detention center fences? The houses of local homophobic politicians? Bike racks? Telephone poles?
You never know when one of those cheeky crossings will turn gay on you.
I looked at the sky the other day after a bit of rain. Boom. Gay. Just like that. It could happen to any of us.
Has anyone heard of Toynbee Tiles? These are interesting by themselves but the relevant point is how they are made.
You make a mosaic out of vinyl flooring chunks on a backing of paper and roofing tar as mastic.
You place them paper side up on asphalt pavement in hot weather. As cars drive over them, the paper and tar wear off revealing the vinyl mosaic.
Just a thought that a group of people could quickly make a rainbow crosswalk that can’t be painted over.
I’ve just been to eat Germany and saw in a museum the Incredible pettiness of the surveillance state.
They collected smell samples of supposed activists, and you could be labeled an activist for writing something sarcastic on a poster or newspaper. Also if you were labeled as such they could 'unofficially ’ ruin your life (as in thwart your ambitions and goals.
So much money and effort was spent on policing the hearts and minds of the populace. And the frail religious conservatives who run America would probably love the idea.
Well then lets hope the US Gov. also crumbles from the sheer amount of resources it takes to be that kind of a dick to its population. I mean they are on a fast track, spending billions they do not really have because of tax cuts to the rich.
I recently went to Germany too and there’s such an uncomfortably large number of cops everywhere. Do you happen to have more info on what you talked about? Id love to read up on it and potentially want friends who live there.
I was in Leipzig, the museum I was mainly taking about was museum der runde ecke but this museum Was also very informative
Quick! Paint somewhere else.
Paint everywhere else. Turn everything that’s not guarded in to rainbows of defiance.
Id ask what’s stopping people from standing in the vicinity with a big box of chalk but thats probably a great way to get chalk made illegal.
I mean… They outlawed unmarried women from parachuting on Sundays, and fishing while driving across bridges…
Why not chalk too?
Goddammit, I thought this was going to be an Onion type article. It wasn’t.
We already live in clown world. We are beyond parody.
I didn’t like Florida that much when I lived there in the 80s and 90s. It sounds like it’s gotten worse.
Good use of tax money. They should also help usher kids to factories while at it.
Paint different crosswalks. How many crosswalks are in the city? I bet there are more than they have police to stand and watch them.
What’s that meme that was going around? Cities have enough police for one ten thousand person protest but ten one thousand person protests would cripple them? Take it a step futher with the crosswalks
I think this is a particular one due to the Pulse massacre
You can symbolically erect memorials in other places, though, which is what OP is going for.
Why limit yourself to existing crosswalks? Male some new ones.
every intersection is by law a crosswalk unless labeled not for crossing. they’re called marked and unmarked crosswalks.
Then when they put cameras and ED-209 killer robots on every crosswalk, start painting sidewalks. Then bike lanes. Then culverts. This should never end just because we know how much it pisses them off.
edit: ya’ll are upvoting this shit but I double-dog DARE you to actually do this shit. You don’t even have to do it in Florida, just get out and do SOMETHING you lazy fucks!
As if any bike lanes will remain in this scenario.
Russia: Rainbow Flag Illegal
USA: Rainbow Flag Illegal
So what’s the difference anymore.
Russia has a capable (if thoroughly evil) leader?
Mmm, I’d say Ukraine makes that not the case. The capable part, not the evil part.
Maybe. I think Putin’s main concern with Ukraine was preventing them from selling natural gas from the Donbas region to Western Europe and undercutting his main source of revenue, and he’s achieved that even if he didn’t successfully overrun the whole country.
It’s the same leader
