I can eat sushi, pizza, samosas, kebab (kabobs, döner or shawarmas depending on your frame of reference), gyoza/pot stickers/tortellone/pasteczki (or whatever), noodles/ramen/spaghetti, knödeln/kroppkakor and so on and so on. Leaving lots of cultures unsaid.
I can enjoy music, cringy cultural movies (animated and not), fun cirque sessions (even without animals being endangered), go to festivals for various cultures, enjoin then in our cultures of scouting, mountaineering, hiking and share my love of enjoying nature.
I can drive electric cars, communicate on Internet forums, keep in touch with new friends as well as loved ones across the world.
I would be in a much poorer world without you all.
How dare you not pledge your undying allegiance to the spot of dirt that you were born on!??!?!?
What’s it called when you live on the right side and agree with the labels?
Woke. I think.
Ah, the original, unironic meaning, now largely extinct through misuse.
Exactly don’t people understand these foreigners steal our jobs, while at the same time they are all lazy and live on welfare?
Agreed 100%. Unfortunately the people who need to read this are not on Lemmy.
I’ve seen a few anti-immigrant comments pop up around here that have been upvoted and they’ve made me pretty sad.
This thread makes my immigrant ass happy though so thank y’all.
Well, by the look of this comment section there’s at least one who really needed to hear the message, but seemingly didn’t take it to heart.
No, I’m pretty racist and needed to read this. /s
Reminds me of this for some reason
That is pretty on the nose, but still an interesting perspective.
It might be on the nose, but we sure as hell have regressed in my short lifetime.
I dunno, the left path looks far easier because it’s far less uphill
I immigrated to the US when I was too young to make that decision myself. Now I’m immigrating to another country. I literally don’t know what it’s like to not be an immigrant, and I’m tired of receiving nothing but hate for it. At least my new city is more welcoming.
Which country now?
Besides all of that valid stuff, immigration is the only reason the US doesn’t have slowing/declining population numbers like many developed countries now have.
The irony is most Americans are descendants of immigrants.
“You shall treat the stranger who sojourns with you as the native among you, and you shall love him as yourself, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.”
What a godless country.
Completely agree! The concept of Culinary Diplomacy is actually practiced by a few countries around the world and is often implemented in partnership with emigrants from those nations. South Korea did this with their “Kimchi Diplomacy” back in 2009 and it was considered very successful. It is one of the reasons Korean food became so popular here in the U.S. around then. Culinary Diplomacy
Never read about SK or China (just not familiar, not to say it doesn’t exist) doing this but Thailand went all in.
https://www.foodrepublic.com/1318428/how-gastrodiplomacy-brought-thai-food-world-stage/
and so many korean markets chains opened up, and people are lovign it.
Seriously, HMart is the shit. The produce is generally WAY better than you can get at “normal” markets - largely because their stock actually gets cleaned out and turned over on a regular basis.
yea our parents go to it alot, we have jagalchi recently opened up, but i think its to pricey, for its limited selections.
I think the Chinese government also supported the Chinese restraunt industry similarly in the US
I think Chinese food spread was more organic, they helped each other immigrate, shared recipes, and acted almost like a franchise in how new restaurants were chosen in unserved areas and given a general playbook
And then the Thai government did it more formally, Korean culinary movement copied the success (or maybe the other way around)
The problem is when immigrants from countries with lower labour standards and poorer conditions are effectively used as “scabs”, to suppress wage growth and unionization. And I fear the capitalists who benefit from this are pushing the “you just hate immigrants” narrative to protect it.
And how do you propose the solution?
I would stop normalizing the theory that immigrants are here only to do badly paid jobs.
I’ve hear too many times “without immigrants who would work in insert miserable badly paid job?”.
Immigrants are not here to do the most miserable jobs without getting properly paid for it.
I think progressive forces should stop with that discourse. I find it a little dehumanizing. If you don’t want to do that shitty job I don’t know why anyone would think that a person, only because they are an immigrant, want to do it for you.
But that’s a response to “they took our jorbs!”. It’s a reframing for immigrants targeted at the reactionaries. But it is the reality - immigrants, particularly undocumented or agricultural visa recipients, are the bedrock of our society
It’s terrible that they are in such unethical conditions. It’s terrible that they have a carve out for child labor for seasonal farm workers. The entire power dynamic is akin to indentured servitude at best
But what we have to do is give them legal status and protections first.
They are not working the worst jobs because that’s what we tell them they can be, they’re working the worst jobs because they’re extra exploitable
You make a good point.
Lobby the government to stop doing that. In the meantime, teach them their rights, how to unionize, help them with food security and finding a place to live, so that they aren’t in such a precarious position that makes exploitation so profitable.
I think a very important step is to start holding businesses responsible for employing undocumented migrants and immigrants. Stop punishing the employees and punish the ones breaking the law by employing them. They’d lobby so hard to make the path to citizenship easier.
We definitely see a gross incentive where companies don’t want people to become citizens because it allows their labor to be cheaper.
I think back in Trump’s first term, he had one policy that I genuinely agreed with - that the H1B Visa program should have a very high minimum salary to it, returning it to its intended purpose of being used for rare, high-talent specialized positions. As it stands, HR will just invent overly specific criteria so that they can deny local citizens jobs, claim they can’t find anyone, and then hire cheap H1Bs - and threaten them with deportation anytime they complain.
Needless to say, because it was a good idea and anti-corp, Trump dropped it almost immediately.
Yeah but good luck holding a sign that says “Don’t shop here, they hire immigrants”.
That’s not my point. I’m saying that law enforcement is being targeted at the wrong people.
I would say make sure people have a clear way of becoming legal immigrants. If they are legal, make sure the labor laws are enforced. So no paying under minimum wage, make sure the workplace is a safe place, etc.
I would say make sure people have a clear way of becoming legal immigrants.
Right now there are legal paths to immigration, and that’s who ICE is deporting- people trying to do things ‘the right way’.
We should make sure the labor laws are enforced for everybody regardless of their immigration status, that would go a long way towards addressing the issue you are talking about. It’s not the fault of people desperate enough to accept being exploited, it’s the fault of companies doing the exploiting, they are what needs to be fixed.
You realize that there are other countries…
I do realize that. What does that have to do with my comment?
Your comment for me reads as every legal immigrant is getting deported by ICE, not some but all and as the US isn’t the only country that has immigrantants, it reads as false but maybe I just can’t read which wouldn’t be surprising.
Your comment for me reads as every legal immigrant is getting deported by ICE, not some but all
It’s a significant number of them so far and I see no signs of it slowing down. Perhaps the goal is to deport every legal immigrant? At any rate it’s enough of them to expose the lie that MAGAts have been spouting for the last decade that they “have no problem with immigrants, they have a problem with illegal immigrants.” Clearly that isn’t the case.
Besides even deporting just one LEGAL immigrant is one too many. Especially when they aren’t just being deported, but being thrown in foreign prisons/ possible death camps.
and as the US isn’t the only country that has immigrantants, it reads as false
I’m still not sure what you are getting at, what does other countries having immigrants have to do with how we treat immigrants in the U.S.? Other countries also have authoritarian dictatorships, that doesn’t mean we should have one here.
Seize the means of production?
Looking back at the history of England. We have had wave after wave of immigrants/invaders. Each wave brought a period of tension. That period was followed by a period of innovation.
The new people, with new views means old ideas are re-evaluated. New skill, flavours and modes of thought became part of our culture.
Even our language improved. Part of English’s power is the level of nuance with word choice. A loft of that comes from melding multiple root languages in.
Some for me. So many cultures, languages and cuisines mixing. But in my case even im an immigrant but the plot twist is im european. Overheard someone talking about how bad immigrants are and they proceeded to say “but youre one of the good ones”. Only context you need to hear is im white.
“Unser Jud’ ist eh gut.”
That’s a sentence that was often used in Nazi Germany/Nazi Austria. It means “Our Jew is good anyway, [but the others are evil]”. It basically means that you keep believing the propaganda, even if the people you know don’t fit to the propaganda at all.
Nowadays this sentence is used to satirize the statement you posted.
“He’s one of the good ones,” is how people have always explained liking a minority that they know, while still being prejudiced against the rest of their race.
Good to know. It is exactly like this. Ive seen people say things like this while they had 5 friends who were from 5 different countries basically next to them. Its really sad when even some of the immigrants believe this shit.
Many immigrants think they can get on the good side of the xenophobes by becoming the “good” immigrants while putting the “bad” immigrants down.
The problem with that tactic is that xenophobes and especially xenophobic laws don’t distinguish between “good” or “bad”.
If immigrants badmouth other immigrants, the only thing that xenophobes take from that is “even the immigrants think immigrants are bad”.
You see a lot of that happening in the USA, where frequently family members of MAGA voters are taken by ICE, because they aren’t going after the “bad” immigrants, but after immigrants, period. Even if their family voted for the people who are now taking them.
And that’s the real take-away. When it comes to lawmaking, you can either be for immigrants or against them. There’s no nuance. Because lawmakers don’t put any in.
dont let the fascist whoresons read this, they will frame you mentally deranged and a danger to their homogeneous society
Fuck their homogenous society, its total lack of art, its dog shit food, and its boring everything. Plus its queerphobia and intellectual stasis. Stillness is death. They have guns; they can get that for themselves any time they like.
Plus I’m kind of autistic. People already look too much the same. If they stopped being different colors and sizes with different types of hair i would not be able to go outside.
Theirs is not a homogeneous society. They are demented and fragmented.
It didn’t take long before they started deporting anyone and everyone. By no means just violent criminals. Horse shit.
Fun fact for you: All döner is kebab, but not all kebab is döner. Because döner is just a type of kebab (grilled meat on a stick). Which also means that shawarma’s status as kebab is questionable, as it’s
usuallysometimes roasted or pan fried, as far as I know.Pan fried shawarma is something Im still trying to get used to. The Lebanese Shawarma places in Ottawa all stack the chicken on a stick rotisserie and it is cooked exactly like the lamb or beef kebabs, they then slice thin portions off of it just the same.
It wasnt until I moved out west that I ever saw Shawarma done any other way, and everything out here has been disappointing by comparison.
Some of those who burn crosses
Are the same that love kebab bossesWell done… Hat tip to you, my friend.
great point, and many countries would be literally poorer as well.
even undocumented immigrants pay about $100 billion in taxes to the US each year.
I loath people that claim immigrants aren’t paying taxes and just taking free money. If they have an official job, they’re paying taxes and every time they make a purchase, taxes are paid, just like everyone else that’s not rich.
Seems weird that an illegal immigrant would have an official job that taxes are paid on. Seems like it would be a big risk for both
For sure, it is. But, if they do have one, they are likely paying taxes. They could be filing exempt, but I do feel that may be even riskier. Obviously if they are cash under the table, then it’s only on purchases, not income.
Because if they paid into it, but don’t file then the government got money it won’t have to refund. A lot less risky than asking to pay your refund.
Immigrants make a country great. One of the reasons why I’m happy about the increased immigration in the USA, and why I’m sad about the decreased immigration in Canada.
