Μαθαίνω ελληνικά. - I am learning Greek.

I am at the point of being able to read Greek, introduce myself, ask and respond to “how are you” and how to say “I am still learning Greek can we speak English”. haha

  • zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    3 months ago

    こんにちは!日本語を勉強しています!

    I’m 90 days into learning Japanese. Most of that has been learning kana and I’m now working on kanji and grammar. It’s very different from English but I really like the way information is conveyed. I’m struggling with grammar stuff right now pretty bad, particularly conjugation, but it’ll click eventually. Also the lack of spaces is definitely something to get used to.

      • zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        I started with Duolingo and while it has all the regular duo problems, I think it actually does a good job with the kana stuff. You can turn off the Romaji too, forcing yourself to read. It doesn’t teach grammar, though, so I bought Genki Vol 1, working my way through that, and wotaku.wiki has a lot of good resources.

        I really like the Cure Dolly stuff for grammar (though she can be difficult to understand, use the youtube transcripts or if you prefer reading a book someone helpfully wrote it all up). Her approach is totally different from the Genki methods, but I find it easier to understand.

        I am also using Anki with the Kaishi 1.5k Kanji deck for kanji and vocabulary. This is honestly pretty painful, I’ve been doing it for like 10 days now and I feel like I’m doing badly every time, but I am improving. I could probably stand to study the radical stuff to understand more how the kanji is constructed but I haven’t found a good resource for that just yet.

        • 鴉河雛@PieFed@pf.korako.me
          link
          fedilink
          日本語
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          日本人にほんじんです

          漢字かんじ助詞じょし敬語けいごあたりがつらいとよくきますが日本語にほんごはそこまで厳密げんみつしゃべらなくてもある程度ていどつうじちゃったりもします

          漢字かんじ理解りかいするのに部首ぶしゅからいくのはいいですね、部首ぶしゅつくりについてある一定いってい意味いみおぼえたらめなくても意味いみ理解りかいするのが簡単かんたんになります

          小学生しょうがくせいレベルで1026ある漢字かんじをとりあえずおぼえれば日常にちじょうこまらないレベルになるとおもいます

          頑張がんばってください

          • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
            link
            fedilink
            日本語
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            3 months ago

            ありがとう。

            私は質問があります。なぜあなたがフルストップを使わないですか。ドイツ語にはたくさんフルストップがありますから。

            • 鴉河雛@PieFed@pf.korako.me
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              ·
              3 months ago

              I usually do use proper punctuation like the Japanese full stop “。”,

              but recently there’s been a trend—especially among younger people—where it’s sometimes avoided.

              Some even call it “maru-hara” (short for “full stop harassment”), suggesting that ending a sentence with “。” can come off as cold or aggressive.

              I guess that’s why I ended up not using it myself, especially in casual contexts like social media.

              • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
                link
                fedilink
                日本語
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                あああーなるほど。冷たいあるいは最終的なものと思われるかもしれないです。けど、ドイツ語に慣れた私にとっては、文の終わりがわがところはどこしらないです。習うしました、ありがとう。

                This kind of sentence is difficult, so I used some translator help :/

          • zaphodb2002@sh.itjust.works
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            がんばいます!

            I appreciate the feedback, this Anki deck should hopefully get my vocabulary to that point. I am actually pretty good at getting the meaning usually and the readings are the tough part, so I’m doing okay I guess. It just feels like a lot, but that’s true of any language I suppose. I’ve learned a lot in the last few months. Thanks for the encouragement!

          • Lemminary@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            カッコいい! 皆と同じように僕も日本語を選びました。Lemmyで人気のある言語らしいですね。

            でも昔、僕の場合は最初に漢字で勉強し始めたので、予想に反して、読むことや理解することが難しくなってしまいました。昨年から、オンライン新聞とウィキの記事を読み始めたので、単語や文法がだんだん分かりやすくなってきました。一歩ずつ進んでいくんですね!

            ところで、日本語を読んで練習するためにおすすめのウェブサイトがありますか?

            I hope I didn’t make too many mistakes. Writing is still a challenge!

            • 鴉河雛@PieFed@pf.korako.me
              link
              fedilink
              日本語
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              自分じぶん日本語にほんご学習がくしゅうについてはらないですが(日本人にほんじんだからたりまえだけど・・・)、
              子供向こどもむけの絵本えほんサイトとかは意外いがいといいかもしれません

              https://ehon.alphapolis.co.jp/

              あとはサイトしゅうみたいなのもあるっぽいですね

              https://nihongo-e-na.com/jpn/site/tag/読む/

              ルビが振ってある日本語のサイトを探すのもいいかもしれないですね、
              れたらなろうとかでほんむのもいかも??

              Switchのどうぶつのもり日本語にほんご設定せっていして勉強べんきょうしているひとたことがあります

              ちなみにかれている日本語にほんご完璧かんぺきでしたよ!

              • Lemminary@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                ·
                3 months ago

                あっ、すみません、好きなサイトはどちらでも大丈夫です。

                きっとチェックします。ありがとうございました~!

  • Schwim Dandy@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    6
    ·
    3 months ago

    2,337 days in on learning German. My goal is to understand all of the band Rammstein’s library of work without needing a translator.

    • NotSteve_@lemmy.ca
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      6
      ·
      3 months ago

      I just gave up Duolingo at 1770 days for French which hurt to do. I was mostly just maintaining a streak at this point and with the news of them using AI to replace their employees (even if they retracted it), I decided to quit.

      I’ve switched to Babbel now which has been really good so far

      • Blisterexe@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        As a native french speaker, I can say with confidence that the duolingo french course sucks and that you’re better off using something else.

        I’d also recommend speaking to native speakers and watching shows in french, that’s great for learning.

  • CommissarVulpin@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    3 months ago

    I’ve been learning Dutch, since the Netherlands seems like a nice place to go if I ever have to flee the US. Thinking about joining some Dutch communities here so I can get more “natural” language exposure.

  • Typewar@infosec.pub
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    3 months ago

    I have pretty much been studying a language every day for the past 4 years, 3 years with Japanese and now 1 year with German.

  • daggermoon@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    I’m learning Esperanto because everything I do has to be esoteric. I understand the fundamentals of the language and my pronunciation is perfect i’d say. I’ve been learning for a few months and I can read and write basic sentences. I also want to learn Spanish (mostly to flirt) but it’s hard to find the time. I’d also like to learn Indonesian, German and Afrikaans.

    Edit: I’d also love to learn Polish but it’s so fucking hard.

    Edit 2: Oh and Finnish. I really like languages and I get excited about them.

  • Treczoks@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    3 months ago

    I’m learning English. I think I can manage. I’m reading more and faster than most native speakers.

    Meine Muttersprache ist Deutsch.

  • emb@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    4
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    I’m learning Japanese. On and off for years, but mainly the last couple. I’m still only at the advanced beginner stage, trying to work on my Kanji, reading, and listening.

    Also learning Spanish, but I feel like I’m in a better spot with it. I took classes in school and have a decent foundation, just need way more practice. It’s on the backburner since I’d rather build on my Japanese.

    For fans of this thread/topic, check out !languagelearning@sopuli.xyz . They have a weekly thread for progress and a few active folks. Lemmy also has more specific language learning communities that could stand to be more active.

    • Lemminary@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      3 months ago

      I always find it amusing when I meet people who speak all three languages I do: English, Spanish, and Japanese. Well, admittedly, I also know a bit of French, but it’s so similar to Spanish that it feels like cheating to understand so much with so little investment. So yeah, when are you learning French next? 😆

      • emb@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        LOL, I did take a semester of French in high school.

        I guess it makes sense as an overlap - North America and Europe both have primarily English, Spanish, and French speakers in close vicinity. And Japanese cultural exports are just really popular.

      • gramie@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Coincidentally, I speak English, French and Japanese, and am learning Spanish (and I learned German and Sesotho in the distant past). I cheated, however all except Spanish were learned at least partially by immersion in places where they speak it.

  • whotookkarl@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    3 months ago

    Tried learning Spanish in school but I never really had a reason to stick with it or keep going. Recently started relearning some vocab and grammar and phrases because there are places I’d like to visit that would be much easier with even just some basic phrases and books I’d like to read in the author’s original words and phrases.

    • azuth@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      3 months ago

      *δύσκολο Συγγραφή would be used to describe authoring a book. You could use γραφή or γράψιμο or a verb construction να γράφεις “to write”.

  • Monster@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    はい、私は日本語勉強します。(Yes, I’m studying Japanese.) I’ve been doing it for the past year but not consistently. I can say and understand basic phrases but I’m far from being able to hold a conversation.

    • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      Damn, I’ve been learning for half a year and was thrilled to try and read that, but I’m missingbthe Kanjis 勉強. I assume they are the Kanjis for learn (minus the shimasu at the end). And why did you use the Hana 語 Kanji to say JapanESE ? Is it pronounced go there for form Nihongo? Sorry, don’t have the Japanese alphabet loaded into my keyboard yet

      • Monster@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        3 months ago

        From what I understand (Don’t take what I say as correct as it may be wrong) but when 語(はな) hana, which is derived from 話す(はなす) hanasu which is the verb to speak, is paired with a nationality, with some exceptions of course like English which is 英語(えいご) eigo, it describes a language. So, pair 語(はな) hana with 日本(にほん) nihon, Japan in Japanese, then you get 日本語(にほんご) nihongo, meaning Japanese. Another example is French which is フランス語 (Furansugo).

        And 勉強 is the Kanji for べんきょ(benkyo) which means study.

        • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          3 months ago

          話 and 語 are different kanji though. One is talk and one is language. 語 does not seem to have 「はな」as a reading according to jisho.org

        • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          Yeah, that was what I assumed. For now Duolingo still uses the ご hiragana for the go part in Nihongo. And the Kanji for べんきょ wasn’t introduced yet

          • Monster@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            I’m using Busuu along with Anki and independent stuff I find online. I used Duolingo for a big part of my study but when I switched to Busuu I quickly realized I didn’t know anything about sentence structure, grammer, or even kanji. So, in my opinion, Duolingo is great for learning words and the three writing systems but not so great about learning everything else.

            • MaggiWuerze@feddit.org
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              ·
              3 months ago

              That’s my impression as well and I’ve only been at it for half a year. In the beginning you would also get grammar help at the start of new chapters, but that stopped relatively quickly, so now it’s mostly diy grammar rules by analyzing the sentences. Maybe I’ll have a look at Busuu

    • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      I’m studying Japanese for over a year now. I recently had another motivation spike after seeing my favorite singer, Ado, live for the first time and understanding just enough to understand that I don’t really understand. I have been doing mostly kanji and vocabulary practice with Wanikani over the past time, but since about 2 weeks, I’m going strong again with daily studying.

      I think I’m currently reaching the tipping point where my sentences start to become meaningful, but still take some time to formalize. Having made it a habit to write a few short sentences in 日本語 is something I would definitely recommend, at any level probably. It helps train the learned stuff and adds an immersion factor that is very fun.

      • Monster@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        3 months ago

        Definitely, I try as much as I can to use the Japanese keyboard and reading in Japanese. It’s a cool language and same, there are some songs that I like that I have no idea what they’re singing about

    • Arkouda@lemmy.caOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      0
      ·
      3 months ago

      Japanese is a language I have on the burner to learn. I have had a full course on it for years but never got around to getting beyond basic greetings.

      After I am done learning Greek, I am going to refresh and learn more French, and then Japanese is next because I love Anime and Manga and want to watch/read it as it should be.

      • Monster@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        3 months ago

        That’s cool being to speak and understand multiple languages. I started learning it because I think it sounds neat when people speak it. Plus, I want to go there one day for a visit and I don’t want to be a typical 外人 (Foreigner) haha

        • 鴉河雛@PieFed@pf.korako.me
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          edit-2
          3 months ago

          日本語にほんご勉強べんきょう頑張がんばってください!

          日本にほん旅行りょこうにきて日本語にほんごができなかったとしてもめるひとはいませんが、ある程度ていど理解りかいできていたほうがたのしめますもんね!

          応援おうえんしています


          On the other hand, I’m studying English myself. I’m still only at around a Japanese middle school level, but I hope to reach the point where I can interact with people in places like this.

          That said, I’m still relying on AI to write this.

          • PlexSheep@infosec.pub
            link
            fedilink
            日本語
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            3 months ago

            日本人ですか。英語は勉強しますか。場語はドイツ語。二年以上日本語を学勉強しています。難しいですけど、日本語は美しい。英語、頑張ってね。

            I hope I didn’t make too many mistakes there! I try to write a few sentences per day lately, and for more complex sentences, I use a translation service (https://deeply.com/) and a dictionary to check. The key to language learning is to do at least a little every (or most) days. It’s kind of amazing that I can use English to learn other languages nowadays.

  • Vinny_93@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    3
    ·
    3 months ago

    I’ve been learning Portuguese for well over two years now. I think I’ve got a pretty good handle on sentence building. The grammar of verb tense is sometimes still somewhat confusing and I think I’ve got a lot of words to learn still.

    But if I read posts on Lemmy in Brazilian Portuguese, I kinda get the gist of it.

      • Vinny_93@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        3 months ago

        Portugal is a lovely country and I’ve decided to go visiting it a lot in my life. I feel more comfortable abroad if I at least kind of speak the language. English and German are no issue for me, French goes in a pinch so I’m pretty comfortable in western Europe but I’d like to be more comfortable with the Mediterranean languages. In due time I might try learning Italian as well.

  • slackassassin@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    Been studying French on and off since high school, but still don’t feel far along at all. Ha. Much better than my Spanish and German though!

  • faltryka@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    2
    ·
    3 months ago

    I’m about a month into learning Mandarin Chinese. I expected the character set to be the challenge but really it has been the inflection and intonation that I’ve had the hardest time with so far.