• SpaceScotsman@startrek.website
    4·
    7 months ago

    This is a real pet annoyance of mine, and I have seeing apologist posts on the internet about it.

    If the actors cant enunciate properly except when they’re shouting, that’s not adding realism, they’re doing bad acting.

    If the sound engineers can’t get a good audio balance for anything except the loudest moment in a film, that’s not a limitation of technology/sound physics, they’re bad at mixing.

    If the director can’t keep all of this in check and make a film that people can actually enjoy, that’s not artistic choice, they’ve made a bad film.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
      2·
      7 months ago

      For the sound engineers, your not wrong, but they don’t have the power you think they do. Asking for another take is an annoyance but accepted by the camera team and visuals, but audio is often overlooked, and you can’t just keep mixing a bad take. But, directors are on a time crunch and so a sound guy saying “actually I know that take was perfect but we can’t hear anything” is usually ignored.

      • SpaceScotsman@startrek.website
        1·
        7 months ago

        This is a fair point. If people demanded their money back when a film has bad audio, I wonder if that might incentivise the industry to care more about this.

    • azertyfun@sh.itjust.works
      01·
      7 months ago

      Nah, I have a good sound setup and I don’t want to be watching movies with less dynamic range because some people are using their shrilly built-in TV speakers with their children screaming in the background or $5 earbuds.

      If you don’t want to have a proper 5.1 audio setup, it’s not the director’s problem, it’s the media player. Audio compression, center channel boosting, and subtitling are things that media centers have been able to do for decades (e.g. Kodi), it’s just that streaming platforms and TVs don’t always support it because they DGAF. Do look for a “night mode” in your TV settings though, that’s an audio compressor and I have one on my receiver. If you are using headphones, use a media player like Kodi that allows you to boost the center channel (which is dedicated to dialogue).

      • Maalus@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 months ago

        There is millions of people who “don’t want to have a proper 5.1 audio setup”. It is the director’s problem, optimise for the masses, not people who can afford to setup a cinema system in their home

    • lagoon8622@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      0·
      7 months ago

      Some of us can’t use subtitles. I want to actually watch the cinematography and the actors. If text is on-screen I can’t not read it

      • Psythik@lemm.ee
        0·
        7 months ago

        Well since you’re obviously into film, you should invest in a proper Dolby Atmos/DTS:X surround setup to give you options. You can either turn up the center channel, put it in “dialog” mode, or enable dynamic range compression (night mode).

        Regardless, tou’re not getting the full experience if you don’t have a surround sound setup. Ideally you should buy a receiver and hand pick your component speakers, but even a sound bar is better than TV speakers, so long as it’s from a well-known brand and has up firing drivers in both the front and rear. If the third number in the number of speakers is 4 or higher (ex 5.1.4), then you’re good to go.

        This applies to everybody reading this, not just lagoon8622. All your dialog problems are being caused by your TV speakers.

        • Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
          0·
          7 months ago

          I shouldn’t have to invest hundreds of dollars into a whole separate sound system just because the sound designers of a movie can’t properly balance to audio for stereo sound, the single most common audio set up in the entire world.

          • Psythik@lemm.ee
            0·
            7 months ago

            It would be nice if TVs came with a proper sound system, but since they don’t, you should factor audio into the cost of your home entertainment system. That’s like going to a restaurant and ordering food without a drink.

            • Squirrelanna@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
              1·
              7 months ago

              Oh I’m not even just talking about TVs. I’m talking about headphones too. I’ve had perfectly good headphones of decent quality that have experienced this issue with movies in particular. Everything else is fine. Games, videos, music all sound great, but some movies are just balanced so poorly. It’s a shared computer space so it’s not really the place for one person to have a whole sound system just to watch poorly balanced movies.