• palebluethought@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    While this is definitely a thing from cartoons, the carrot/stick thing is absolutely referring to hitting the donkey. The whole point is punishment vs reward…

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      2 months ago

      Well, seeing as how I grew up on a horse ranch, I can totally confirm the ‘cartoon logic’ you speak of is absolutely real, and is used to help train at least some donkeys and horses.

      It’s more like teasing them to go after something they can never have.

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        2 months ago

        Yeah, again, I’m not saying that’s not a thing, man. Just that’s not what carrot vs stick metaphor is about

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          2 months ago

          Can you provide me a couple older references to this? Preferably before the year 2000, or at least before the AI and enshittification era?

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              2 months ago

              I asked for before the enshittification era.

              I’m not about to trust a controversial article that could have been manipulated by almost anyone these days.

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                  2 months ago

                  I do appreciate you for looking into older references, but I was hoping for some articles from before the digital era, like a scan or three from a couple encyclopedias or other relevant articles before the modern digital era.

                  Find me something from like 1950-60 and I might be more inclined to believe it. Other than that, given my life experience, I tend to believe what I literally learned on the horse ranch.

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                    2 months ago

                    Honestly, people have given you examples. If you want examples from pre-internet then you should do some work yourself to find it.

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            2 months ago

            It’s pretty intuitive from the saying. It’s the carrot OR the stick, not the carrot ON the stick. The carrot is the reward for doing the thing, the stick is the punishment for not doing it. Just google it.

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              2 months ago

              Read OP’s post again, it literally says “carrot and stick”.

              I’m not about to nitpick or argue my life experience with someone that’s probably never rode a horse or donkey in their life, doesn’t know how to read, and goes to Google for all their information.

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                2 months ago

                Dude no one’s arguing about your life experience, it’s just irrelevant. The carrot and stick metaphor isn’t even about donkeys or horses.