• over_clox@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Can you provide me a couple older references to this? Preferably before the year 2000, or at least before the AI and enshittification era?

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      2 months ago

      It’s pretty intuitive from the saying. It’s the carrot OR the stick, not the carrot ON the stick. The carrot is the reward for doing the thing, the stick is the punishment for not doing it. Just google it.

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        2 months ago

        Read OP’s post again, it literally says “carrot and stick”.

        I’m not about to nitpick or argue my life experience with someone that’s probably never rode a horse or donkey in their life, doesn’t know how to read, and goes to Google for all their information.

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          Dude no one’s arguing about your life experience, it’s just irrelevant. The carrot and stick metaphor isn’t even about donkeys or horses.

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        I asked for before the enshittification era.

        I’m not about to trust a controversial article that could have been manipulated by almost anyone these days.

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            I do appreciate you for looking into older references, but I was hoping for some articles from before the digital era, like a scan or three from a couple encyclopedias or other relevant articles before the modern digital era.

            Find me something from like 1950-60 and I might be more inclined to believe it. Other than that, given my life experience, I tend to believe what I literally learned on the horse ranch.

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              Honestly, people have given you examples. If you want examples from pre-internet then you should do some work yourself to find it.

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                I’ve known how to ride horses and donkeys since I was 6 years old, I grew up on a horse ranch.

                I don’t need no fucking examples dumbass, I lived it.

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                    2 months ago

                    Funny you think you are.

                    You don’t hit a donkey or a horse with a stick, unless you want your face kicked in. Which actually happened on our ranch, thankfully not to me though.

                    You ever heard of a horse whip? Do you know how to use them? They’re usually over 8 feet long, and when swung, aimed and popped correctly, that pop exceeds the speed of sound, keeping the trainers at a safe distance with a safe advantage.

                    Wanna try again troll? I literally grew up on a horse ranch, and the proper tools of training horses and donkeys would rip your flesh open.