• heavyboots@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Slightly OT, but this is also why we absolutely need ranked voting ASAP. How much better would a candidate like Sanders do if people knew that voting for him as first choice and Biden as second was possible?

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        2 years ago

        It’s almost like he already won in 2016 and lo and behold, we can still vote again 4 years later.

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            2 years ago

            This is so dumb. He didn’t try to not let people vote. Every loser every year claims recounts are needed, they just usually don’t use the system to try and prove it. He’s using the system to try and prove it. The system is there for a reason

            Stop trying to claim he’s stopping people from voting.

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              He claimed 3 million illegal votes during an election he won. 3 million… then what did he do once becoming president after an accusation of the largest voter fraud claim for a democracy in history? Nothing. Barely mentioned it. No enormous investigation to arrest the thousands of people that would have needed to be involved to coordinate 3 million illegal votes. Nothing. Why? Because it was just something for him to say off the cuff. He took a page from his hero Roy Cohn to just declare victory even when defeated. Lose a case? Just claim victory. Lose a popular vote count? Just claim victory. He has done it all his life and doesn’t care how easily it is for some people to believe his off-the-cuff lies even when they can threaten democracy itself. He will never concede a loss and doesn’t care who it hurts. He will also never have the evidence for his claims because he doesn’t need any.

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    2 years ago

    That’s where youre wrong. There are more than 2 parties. The 2 party system is atrocious.

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      2 years ago

      There are only two parties that have a mathematical chance of winning. You can throw your vote away on a third party, hoping to get them 20x their highest ever turn-out in the hopes that they get more money if you want. But know that what you are actually doing is indistinguishable from simply not voting. Work on getting ranked-choice voting in your state first, then vote your conscience. Voting third party now just guarantees another 4+ years of Trump.

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        2 years ago

        Gaslighting people into thinking there are only 2 viable options is the reason why we’re in this mess. Just saying.

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          2 years ago

          It’s literally a mathematical certainty. Every single Democrat would have to vote against Joe Biden for a third party, or else the vote would be split, and we’d guarantee a Trump win.

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            2 years ago

            I don’t know, I’m sure there’s plenty of people on the right that don’t like either candidate, and would probably vote for 3rd party if people would stop this nonsense that there are only 2 parties.

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              Any third-party run that pulls from both parties is gonna end up being an “enlightened centrist” group like No Labels and we’ll get more of the exact same.

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                2 years ago

                The majority of people do not hold extreme left or extreme right views. While the majority of democratic and republican candidatesaree trying to match up to the extremes of their parties, and you get the same results and nothing done. Why not have common sense take a shot at running things?

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    2 years ago

    If your point is I’m going to be a dick, then just say I’m going to be a dick, and be that dick. Dick.

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    2 years ago

    Both are too old to run. Honestly, I don’t think Joe would make it another 4 years.

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      Why Joe and not trump? He’s older, sure, but going by general healthy he looks better. And this is even with all the work trump puts into his looks. Ffs the guy fusses over his hair so much and paints himself orange. And he still looks like shit

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        2 years ago

        I guess because Biden is President I see him more often on tv and it’s clear he is failing. Don’t get me wrong, statistically neither will live through the next term. We need some young blood to choose from. That’s all I was trying to say.