• Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world
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    My brother used to say, if i have to lift it up why shouldn’t my wife have to put it down?

    I see his point but, i close the lid to flush so i don’t have to brush my teeth with a pissy shit particle covered toothbrush.

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    If you properly close a toilet seat/lid, everyone has to open it before using it, I don’t see what the big deal is

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    I once jokingly mentioned to my wife that leaving the seat up is just as convenient for me as leaving it down is for her. To which she pointed out that, of the four different permutations of toilet use between us, 3/4 require the seat to be down, so all in all, it makes sense to leave the seat down.

    And dammit, I had to marry a logical autistic, didn’t I?

    So now I always (try to remember to) leave the seat down.

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      At home both of those are invalid. You close the lid before you flush so you don’t spread particles everywhere (among many other benefits)

      Everyone opens the lid/seat to the desired level. Everyone does their business. Everyone closes the lid. Everyone flushes and washes their hands.

      True gender equality!

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      I tend to sit down to pee most times (at home), so that ratio is even higher for us…

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      That’s just basic math. +Sit the fuck down when pissing at home. Who is paying you to stand while taking a piss when you could sit down?

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      I mean, it’ll be less than 3/4 if you always stand to pee, because people pee more often than they poop (of they hydrate sufficiently and there’s no health issue). But it’ll still definitely be over half, so the result is the same.

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      There’s a University of Cork study showing that putting the lid down aerosolises more material so spreads bacteria etc. over the whole room, whereas having the lid open produces a smaller number of larger droplets that nearly all just fall straight back into the toilet. The lid is not sealing the toilet and preventing the need to clean the bathroom.

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          My comment was explicitly pointing out that closing the lid can have the opposite of the intuitive effect and make things worse even though you’d expect it to make them better. It seems that I misrepresented the study’s findings, though, as while closing the lid does make particles remain airborne for much longer, so my overall point is sound, closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.

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            closing the lid does reduce the number of particles that initially become airborne.

            Significantly – 30-50%.

            So to be clear: close the lid

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              That’s not the conclusion the study’s authors drew. The particles being airborne for longer means they can float further and contaminate things further away from the toilet, and also are more likely to end up inhaled. That could be a bigger problem than the number of particles initially released, so the study didn’t make a recommendation of whether the lid should be up or down. More research is required before anyone should be issuing definitive commands in bold to strangers on the internet.

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    If men have to put down women have to lift up. Morality is when the same logic is applied to the other side. Otherwise your being sexist and prejudice.

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      Yes because men can only shit while standing. Are you reading your own bullshit?

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          So why should women put the seat up if they cant know if youre gonna shit or piss. Why dont you try that thinking before speaking thing yourself for once?

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            You don’t? That’s a moronic take. We lift we drop we don’t bitch about it. Only a petty fuck would make the seat being pre-prepared for thier specifications an issue. Still haven’t used your brain eh.

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              I can make it even simpler for you, because you dont seem to get basic logic.

              Case 1: Woman uses the bathroom -> the seat is down -> everyone can use it as is. Case 2: Man pisses while standing -> the seat is up -> woman needs to lower it 100%, man only when sitting down next time.

              Also thats not even the issue. A toilet seat if fucking filthy. Forcing someone else to touch it just because you are too lazy to lower it yourself after using it for yourself is as selfish as it gets.

              I dont think this will get through to you but maybe you can stop and think about it for 10s. Why make life hard fpr other people for your own benefit? Maybe thats your egotistic worldview and you see yourself as an alpha or whatever bs, but if not your take doesnt make any sense.

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                Dum dum what do you think men do when we lift the toilet seat? Stop thinking about “ew I have to touch the toilet” and just stop policing ppl shitting. Fucking repedocan mindset rules for thee not for me. But you can’t imagine a world where you have to do what others do.

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                  Maybe you like touching toilet seats. Some people dont and I dont see why I should force them to.

                  Also do you even read what youre writing? “Have to do what others do” equals “have to do something an other person forces me to because of their fucking lazy ass” in your mind? How entitled can you get. Please stop spreading conservative bullshit your manly man grandpa taught you.

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    This issue always baffles me.

    The amazing thing about owning a penis is that I can still pee sitting down and there’s never any drama. Have to poop? Don’t even have to move! Have to fart? Go for it! Not farting in your underwear makes them smell fresher for longer, anyway.

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      Not farting in your underwear makes them smell fresher for longer, anyway.

      Bro wtf? I know that was a casual one liner… but it leaves sooo many unanswered questions!

      /s

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    This assumes that men ever lift the seat. I’d prefer it be left up so that there is at least a chance I can sit on a dry, piss-free seat. Lowering a seat is preferable to the alternative.

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    Toilet seats are fully operational by anyone, (it’s true I checked). How about instead of trying to police everyone you just put it up or down yourself and stfu?

    Seeing this sign would ensure I go out of my way to leave it up.

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      I’m a gentleman and so I lowered the seat as my hosts requested. But I also took a picture because it’s funny and weirdly presumptuous.

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      Thats a spicy take. You know the seat being down is more than convenience, right? It’s extremely unhygienic to flush an open toilet let alone the dangers of small children falling in. I recognize a public space is less likely to have a child small enough and unattended to worry significantly about.

      We live in a society and all that. Personal responsibility only works if you err on the side of caution. If there is a default setting to a toilet seat and cover it would be down and closed. Otherwise, why put one on at all.

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    Can people do what they need to do without anybody policing them? Seat up or down who cares?

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    I’m a woman and will leave the seat up at work (not at home)

    We have unisex toilets and truck drivers use them - they regularly wee all over the toilet seats if left down :(

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      if there is a lid - always down

      if there is no lid - always up

      it is the safest, cleanest, fairest option

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      we just leave it down at home. we talked about it one day and everyone with male excretory parts just wants to get off their feet. only time the seat lifts is for cleaning.

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      I’ve thought of this so many times. I’m fact, I’ve thought about a spring-loaded seat hinge that raises the seat unless there’s a person upon it. If the seat is always up, it is much less likely to be urinated upon. It takes the work completely out of the hands of the user.

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        I’m not well endowed, at best I’m average… at best. But while I don’t touch the water, I hit the front of the bowl. It’s disgusting to feel the cold porcelain.

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          Analyze the form factor of toilet. Is it one of those round ones that’s sized for potty-training a child? Emergencies only. The bowl deep enough and water low enough? Push dick down with one hand, hope Poseidon doesn’t kiss your willy. Stand up far to wipe, don’t sit down too fast. Try not to piss under the seat.

          Prefer to avoid public restrooms for shits, stand up to pee.

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            i’m a bit confused on the geometry here. how can one risk both dipping ones dick in the drink, and peeing under the seat?

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              The seat is the problem not the water. You have to make a choice with some variety of toilets, touch the seat or get splashed. Obviously try to stay far enough away from both, but the point is, standing up is far easier than playing this game.

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        • Cleaner for your penis: sitting down eliminates the last drops remaining that are common when standing up
        • Cleaner for the bathroom: zero risk foreskin messing up your aim and having pee hit areas that don’t get washed by the flush
        • Better urine elimination for men that have prostate issues or lower urinary tract symptoms. I don’t, but it’s a factor
        • More chill to sit down and check your phone while in the bathroom
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            No, I’m talking about where the urine hits the toilet. If it hits a part that doesn’t get washed by the flush, the urine dries out there and smells.

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          Cleaner for your penis: sitting down eliminates the last drops remaining that are common when standing up

          only if you do the gooch scooch

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        I find sitting easier than standing. It requires less attention (atleast if you have standards of the waste actually being in the pot).

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        do you like, have severe knee pain or something? that’s the only way i can see it being more difficult to sit down.

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          Even when sitting down we have to aim the nozzle manually, so it’s just sitting down for a moment then getting up, which normally is more work than standing there for a moment.

          And (at least for me), it is more comfortable peeing standing up (albeit that might be because of a lifetime of doing it like that).

          Another compromise is to pee in the shower. or better yet, on there indoor plants, this way we don’t need to water them.

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          I don’t like it when my thing touchs the inside of the toilet its disgusting and other xommentters took the time to explain the simple reasons for you

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          Just the need of undoing your pants/belt already makes it easier to stand up.

          And some seats have that front opening, which helps, otherwise there’s often not much room to pee sitting down.

          Then there’s also some people who prefer to cover the seat with toilet paper before sitting down.

          It’s easier to stand up.

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            Magic trick: With a skirt/kilt you don’t need to undo the belt!

            Also isn’t the intersection of needing to undo ones belt and needing the front opening rather small?

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            And some seats have that front opening, which helps, otherwise there’s often not much room to pee sitting down.

            Just leave the lid up and sit on the actual bowl itself

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      I’ve been to men’s restroom before. I wouldn’t sit on that unless extremely necessary. Even then, I’d wipe that ship clean and cover it in toilet paper first

      I do wonder if they all sat whether that’d solve it, though. That is, if it’d be cleaner. Or maybe they don’t need to sit to keep it clean. Idk

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        I’ve worked maintenance for many years and I can assure there is no difference between men’s and women’s rest rooms other than there being urinals, they’re all disgusting, we’re all disgusting, all bathrooms are just wild animal shit houses.

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          From my experience, it depends on where. Malls and things like that where there are many people of all different demographics absolutely are equally disgusting. Semi-private washrooms tend to be less disgusting overall, but women’s are usually at least a little cleaner. Standing to pee causes splashes. Enough human traffic and and the whole place smells like a hamster cage that doesn’t go away unless the whole damn bathroom is flooded in sanitiser.

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            Women piss all over toilet seats and floors all the time, even in fancy places, don’t kid yourself. Any bathroom in any location is only as clean as the staff makes it, if left alone every public or semi-private bathroom would be covered in shit and piss within a day and there are no gender lines. I’ve worked at classy joints and dives and if not tended to by staff every toilet will be covered in piss and shit in ways that I personally cannot comprehend. Women’s only toilets get covered in just as much piss and shit as men’s toilets. Most people don’t ever see both restrooms and assume theirs is either cleaner or dirtier than the opposite gender, but as someone who deals with both on a general basis, animal shit houses the lot of them.

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              Hi. Been in, worked in both. My experience with bathrooms doesn’t invalidate yours. Both can be true. Hell, we’re probably not in the same country, so social norms can play a factor, and like I said before, demographics make a big difference in a lot of things. Which drug residues are left on the back of the toilet, for example.

              I’m sorry you have such strong feelings about people and public bathrooms. It’s definitely a shitty experience (pun intended). It’s a weird hill to die on though.

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          Really? I’d expected cleaner. I mean, they sit. I don’t know how women pee, honestly. Like, how the flow goes. But I can say from experience peeing into a toilet while standing up can be difficult. Pee, y u no single stream straight into toilet?

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      I had a cat that trained me to sit down to pee.

      The only time I could ever get her to purr was when when I was sat on the toilet. So, of course, I began sitting down to pee in order to maximise her purring and fusses. And it kinda stuck.

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      nooooope not putting my cheeks on that unless necessary

      seat up, squat a bit, and aim to reduce splash. wipe when done no matter what it looks like

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      Men that pee standing up (except urinals, or bushes) just like to make their life a tiny bit worse for no reason at all.

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    If this was a male-only bathroom I’d still totally agree with the content of the sign.

    If you want to pee standing, use the urinal. I, as a man, don’t enjoy sitting in some other person’s pee either.