In my opinion we need to support other websites like odysee and peertube. If everyone here continue to watch content on yt we won’t have a real alternative. This is my thought. For me the best alternative right now is odysee and I’m trying to watch only creator there. (If u want a list of content creator I can write it down)
I spent better than a month blocking all of the extreme right content and bullshiy on Odyssey. There’s not enough content left to fill 15 minutes of my day
I set up new pipe attached it to Peer tube there’s a couple of people on there that are okay but hardly anything. Completely lacking any form of monitization, peer tube just lacks creators like mad.
Odyssey and rumble are just cesspools, and peer tube is starved for anybody half decent.
If you are watching it just for entertainment/timepass, youtube must not be it.
they’re a part of the solution: yes you’re watching content from youtube, but you’re in no way supporting youtube or its creators financially by doing so.
there’s no difference between using freetube and quitting youtube altogether as far as google is concerned, and it’s a good option for people who want to protest google but don’t want to miss out on content.
Well it’s not like we can follow a youtuber on peertube, odysee or bitchute if they don’t post on those platforms.
If a vlogger chooses not to post anywhere other than Youtube platform, he should face zero disadvantage? Unless you are literally addicted, why would you facilitate her laziness in not engaging at multiple platforms?
Is Odysee even decentralized still?
If anyone is interested in peertube, there’s an awesome collection of channels here: https://piefed.social/f/fediversevideos
There’s also a number of peertube related communities: !peertube@lemmy.world
Hope to see you all there!
The Peertube Firefox add on looks like a great idea👍
I might add it even if I already have a lot of things to watch on Peertube.
Odysee is a nonstarter for me with its lack of moderation, resulting in a lot of right-wing hate filled garbage. Also, their thing with using some virtual currency and paying creators is weird. I want no part of cryptocurrency or “space dollars” or whatever they want to call it. PeerTube is ideal but not enough people are posting to it, which is frustrating. Youtube frontends, like invidious, are our best solution until creators move to something else.
yeah but is the only decent alternative in my opinion. There are several privacy and tech creator. In future maybe will be better. But we need to use alternative to youtube. This is the point. Also if it’s not perfect. Ai is coming to yt!
Odysee’s policies make it unusable. I remember the first video I ever clicked to watch on Odysee was a video titled something like “What I am doing for Pride month.” This video was on the front page at the top. I clicked it and it was some lady preaching about how Pride is evil and perverse and all kinds of hateful rhetoric and how it was ruining our children. I just looked at Odysee again and, months later, I see more of her videos on the front page. Upon exploring Odysee, there is even more of this type of content still freely available to watch. I don’t care which way you lean, hate speech should never be acceptable. It is well known that the platform is a right wing cesspool. Here is a Reddit thread from 5 years ago where people were discussing the same thing, nothing has changed. It is the platform you go to when you are too crazy for YouTube (which is pretty nuts). It is not a viable alternative to YouTube for most people. There doesn’t exist a good alternative, PeerTube being the most promising option at the moment.
I fundamentally disagree. Look at what they are doing now framing Israel criticism as “hate speech”. Either all speech is free speech or none is, because “hate” can be defined as anything. You could easily frame all sorts of speech as “hate” speech against some group.
Now we can have a conversation about the merits of free speech, which is an entirely different beast. But if you are comfortable with limiting speech, you need to necessarily be comfortable with the fact that the same mechanism can and will be used to limit your speech.
Either all speech is free speech or none is
I agree with this.
Free speech is not all speech. It never has been. People who think everyone should be allowed to say whatever are the same people who just want to say the “N” word and other hateful things without consequences. There should always be consequences for what you say and I don’t care which way it lands ideologically on the subject of free speech, hate speech is wrong, period. It is widely accepted what hate speech is; if you say anything against marginalized groups, you are wrong. If you use religion to justify your hate, you are wrong. If you call for the harm of others, you are wrong. Call it what you want. I am not going to sit here and debate free speech. My point was Odysee is full of the worst kind of people and you should not have to suffer those people because you want an alternative to YouTube.
Ai is getting to more than just YT. Nothing is perfect just yet.
100% Especially since Google is cracking down on alternative front ends like freetube and blocking VPN IPs
The hard part will be to convince creators to go to platforms where they don’t get paid
Is self-hosting a YouTube front-end reliable? Public instances often don’t work, but maybe Google doesn’t block private ones?
This is the real problem. But I see already a lot of creator on odysee. We need to support them by donations
Nah, hard pass on Odysee.
why?
No moderation. Every time I’ve looked at it it’s been full of alt-right bullshit. The people running it pretty much have to know, so are apparently fine with it. I’m not.
Understand
Use Grayjay, it pulls in all the platforms
Isn’t that just a yt front-end with extra stuff?
It is more of a platform aggregation tool, where you can see all the content for the creators. The platform is irrelevant to me personally
yeah, my point is that we need to interact in the plattform
There’s one called glomble that’s picking up a little. Granted it needs people to donate to the platform as well if they want things to load faster than 30 megabits per minute
nice, I ll take a look
