“Nobody would listen” yet people (not just men) don’t go to therapy where someone’s not only PAID to listen, but to help you challenge those cognitive distortions and apply the skills gained to heal with people that do want to listen without the payment. There’s 8 billion people in the world. It’s simply not true “nobody would listen or care.”
Therapy is not about talking to people, it’s about helping you be best version of yourself. About helping you help yourself. Instead of continue doing whatever you think you’re doing, with isolation and self harm and constant loathing.
I dont understand how a therapist could help me be a better version of myself? They dont know me and they likely arent any better of a person themselves. I can only imagine its generic self help advice parroted to for hundreds of dollars as hour.
Therapy is only useful for people that need help working through a disorder.
if you are about to kill yourself or others, your therapist HAS to get outside help - he can’t just let it happen. Please note that there is a difference (and it’s not even subtle) between discussing thoughts of suicide and murder vs. you are about to do the same. Calmly talking with your therapist about those thoughts will not be an issue; being severely agitated and shouting about who has it coming surely is. The specific wording is that there must be imminent or inevitable risk and that a specific victim can be identified - to be fair, if i were to be in such a state, i’d prefer a mental hospital stay over hurting someone anyway.
They also have a duty to report if you tell them you are about to commit a crime (please note that this does not include stuff in the past), and they have a duty to report in the case of a minor telling them that they are in an abusive home situation. That’s the gist of it. There are some state laws like in California where, should you be in the situation where the prosecution wants to give you a death sentence, they can call your therapist as a witness; or when you admit to viewing CSAM. You can read up details here.
I’ve discussed suicidal thoughts, murderous thoughts, psychiatric episodes, past abuse i’ve experienced (passive AND active - people who get abused tend to do the same to others, especially as a child, which still haunted me nearly 30 years later), situations where i hurt others in my past (real and imagined), illegal substance abuse and addiction, theft, and a lot of other shit that happened in my life with my therapist.
Hmm. Honestly? I’m unsure if promoting that sort of withholding would be moral, despite it seeming wise to be aware of. Generally, anything said pro is required to report on, but that’s merely a technicality and in no way implies a suggestion to hide truth from the law. Ahem.
As long as you don’t show disclose intent to harm yourself or others then you’re fine. Note that ideation is not intent but where exactly that line lies will depend on the therapist.
Generally speaking, saying that you have thoughts of suicide is fine, but saying that you went out and bought a tank of inert gas, some hoses, and a big plastic bag, will get you put on a psych hold.
I know this at least doesn’t include if you’re discussing child abuse and don’t intend on harming anyone yourself. But I’m more worried about the stuff I don’t know about. And to be perfectly honest, the situation in my country is so bad that I don’t think every desire to harm others is necessarily unwell.
And to be perfectly honest, the situation in my country is so bad that I don’t think every desire to harm others is necessarily unwell.
It’s definitely not. But once again the line is between stating desire and stating intent. You won’t get put on a hold for saying you want someone dead. You will get put on a hold for saying you are going to kill someone and have a plan to do so. Somewhere between those two points is the threshhold where some mental health professionals will report you and some won’t.
“Nobody would listen” yet people (not just men) don’t go to therapy where someone’s not only PAID to listen, but to help you challenge those cognitive distortions and apply the skills gained to heal with people that do want to listen without the payment. There’s 8 billion people in the world. It’s simply not true “nobody would listen or care.”
But people with your attitude is exactly what I’m talking about.
There are sliding scale agencies, some taking on clients for free. Take care.
Sure. I gotta pay just to talk to people. Love this society. I think I will just isolate for a bit like the meme says.
Therapy is not about talking to people, it’s about helping you be best version of yourself. About helping you help yourself. Instead of continue doing whatever you think you’re doing, with isolation and self harm and constant loathing.
I dont understand how a therapist could help me be a better version of myself? They dont know me and they likely arent any better of a person themselves. I can only imagine its generic self help advice parroted to for hundreds of dollars as hour.
Therapy is only useful for people that need help working through a disorder.
This.
Who can afford to have an expert misunderstand them, hour after expensive hour, and all the while risk being labeled instead of helped?
Nah. Now that Medicaid/care is dead, the US is about to see a whole lotta deaths as a result. (Neglect, escapism, etc.)
Fuck these Nazis (in the face with a brick, preferably)
Is there a handy cheat sheet of topics you can’t bring up with your therapist if you want them to maintain confidentiality?
if you are about to kill yourself or others, your therapist HAS to get outside help - he can’t just let it happen. Please note that there is a difference (and it’s not even subtle) between discussing thoughts of suicide and murder vs. you are about to do the same. Calmly talking with your therapist about those thoughts will not be an issue; being severely agitated and shouting about who has it coming surely is. The specific wording is that there must be imminent or inevitable risk and that a specific victim can be identified - to be fair, if i were to be in such a state, i’d prefer a mental hospital stay over hurting someone anyway.
They also have a duty to report if you tell them you are about to commit a crime (please note that this does not include stuff in the past), and they have a duty to report in the case of a minor telling them that they are in an abusive home situation. That’s the gist of it. There are some state laws like in California where, should you be in the situation where the prosecution wants to give you a death sentence, they can call your therapist as a witness; or when you admit to viewing CSAM. You can read up details here.
I’ve discussed suicidal thoughts, murderous thoughts, psychiatric episodes, past abuse i’ve experienced (passive AND active - people who get abused tend to do the same to others, especially as a child, which still haunted me nearly 30 years later), situations where i hurt others in my past (real and imagined), illegal substance abuse and addiction, theft, and a lot of other shit that happened in my life with my therapist.
Hmm. Honestly? I’m unsure if promoting that sort of withholding would be moral, despite it seeming wise to be aware of. Generally, anything said pro is required to report on, but that’s merely a technicality and in no way implies a suggestion to hide truth from the law. Ahem.
As long as you don’t show disclose intent to harm yourself or others then you’re fine. Note that ideation is not intent but where exactly that line lies will depend on the therapist.
Generally speaking, saying that you have thoughts of suicide is fine, but saying that you went out and bought a tank of inert gas, some hoses, and a big plastic bag, will get you put on a psych hold.
I know this at least doesn’t include if you’re discussing child abuse and don’t intend on harming anyone yourself. But I’m more worried about the stuff I don’t know about. And to be perfectly honest, the situation in my country is so bad that I don’t think every desire to harm others is necessarily unwell.
It’s definitely not. But once again the line is between stating desire and stating intent. You won’t get put on a hold for saying you want someone dead. You will get put on a hold for saying you are going to kill someone and have a plan to do so. Somewhere between those two points is the threshhold where some mental health professionals will report you and some won’t.
I tried 7cups and it was like Paid Premium Ad Vendor Popup Email Signup Money Time Listen Service Exclusive bullshit scheme.
Volunteering armchair psychologist in
.world?Who really wants to know of something someone went through without it being beneficial for the victim? Are you going to commit to a gofundme?
Don’t publish in a vacuum, praxis mental care, for those that really consent.
Brii Ash, wasn’t doing so in insta.
I’m sorry, what?
In english, please?
Aaand of course you are not a man.
Can you simply accept that you may not know what other people go through?
You don’t have to be a man to understand the male experience. We’re very vocal about it.
Right?? It’s like a Canadian having an opinion on the USA. Sometimes people can see things in yourself that you cannot.
Besides, the vast, impassible gulf that exists between all sentient minds dwarfs whatever trivial difference gender introduces.