I feel you’ve missed a minimum of two very important points here. Person 1 actually shared a link showing that treatment of 'flu-induced fever prolonged the infection (rather than attempted to prove quackery, or failed to affirm the negative). Then it was argued that feeling better is not a helpful way of measuring effectiveness of treatment.
Pov You contract gangrene in the tropics, far from a hospital.
Your best chance of survival is still to bite on this wood while I cut off your leg. It’s not going to make you feel better, but you might just live.
Would you still prefer the analgesics?

Tu veux dire “gums” là

IDLES

I choose not to. I can choose to be hopeful for the future without being unrealistic. I can see intrinsic value in human life and the human experience even knowing that every single one of us will die at some point, some peacefully, some during suffering. The moment of death doesn’t have to define one’s life. Even a baby who lives for six hours has spent infinitely more time living than dying. Would you be so nihilistic as to erase that life, just because it was short?

Your philosophy is valid; it’s not necessarily correct.
Starting from the assumption that it is denies you the opportunity to see things from a different perspective.

It’s worth asking your local library. My library card gives me read-only access to every ISO standard I’ve ever needed.

There’s also the Estonian standards institute which offers the same standards for much much cheaper.

If, in some cataclysm, all of scientific knowledge were to be destroyed, and only one sentence passed on to the next generation of creatures, what statement would contain the most information in the fewest words? I believe it is the atomic hypothesis that all things are made of atoms — little particles that move around in perpetual motion, attracting each other when they are a little distance apart, but repelling upon being squeezed into one another. In that one sentence, you will see, there is an enormous amount of information about the world, if just a little imagination and thinking are applied.

Richard Feynman

So, if, during the apocalypse, you have access to a means of passing on a message to the poor bastards who have to live in the New World, it should be this:

“Everything is made of atoms”

Also my dad is a billionaire

rude

I’m on the spectrum so I can neither tell nor give a shit! The soundness of what you’re saying is most important to me.

Oh yeah, agreed 100%

I’m not sure I follow you. Can you explain

Yeah I feel this. “Failed experiment” implies, to me, that we should forget this avenue of thought and go back to what we had before.
“Outdated concept” might have been better?
Either way we’re all in agreement fundamentally

Why though? Why is it assumed that people will boycott a show/movie if it has a known paedophile in it, while brands/political parties with a mass-sex-offender at the helm are just peachy?

Is that Northern Ireland? Could well be where “geg” comes from if so!

This same site reports that Baby is dead: https://sportlines.co.uk/spice-girls-star-emma-bunton-dies-at-48-world-mourns-loss-of-baby-spice/

The Scouse British dialect has a nice term for this: “Geg out”. As opposed to “Fred is gegging in”, used when someone is trying to implicate themselves or become part of the group/conversation.
Someone involving themselves when they shouldn’t be? Two syllables: Geg. Out.
No idea where it comes from but I heard it a lot in my youth. Forsomereason.