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  • This is what blights so many small reddit alternatives.

    The initial wave of users onto reddit clones often include a disproportionate amount of malcontents. A lot of people who don’t play well with others, who are banned from reddit (or at least banned from lots of subreddits) usually turn up first on these reddit alternatives and disrupt the community by repeatedly showing anti-social or disruptive, attention seeking behaviour. It’s not even necessarily related to any political persuasion. This stuff can collapse budding alternatives.

    The first wave of new users on reddit alternatives are, in my experience, more likely to have a lot of problem users and since the sites are so small, and usually sparsely moderated, they are much more disruptive than they would be on reddit. The Fediverse is large enough to avoid the problems of that to some extent now (a problem user who makes alts to troll, and bait and harass is a lot more visible on a small reddit clone with 1000 users vs. 50,000) but there’s something to be said by growing and ignoring the problems (as Reddit itself had done - which is why it’s now a site utterly infested with bots and astroturfers and trolls etc).

    The hope here is that the Fediverse can implement useful tools that disrupt the typical pattern of behaviour that these people present so they don’t increase and fester as the network grows. Best to nip this stuff now whilst the userbase is manageable.













  • That would be one of those mandatory blacklists to which I referred. And now I’m repeating myself.

    So a “mandatory blacklist” sounds an awful lot like just a admin ban which is no different to what exists now.

    Just say, “bwaaaah! I don’t like it” and be done with it.

    I don’t. But for many other reasons to.


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    18 days ago

    It would be present on a guy’s computer and the network would block any communication with him. I think that’s as good as it gets.

    No, from the way you have described it - people who have enabled a blocklist that block his account would block any communication with him and thus blacklist his child porn. But anyone else who enters the website new without any blocks up would see it.

    I think you’re dead wrong there. I think that everybody hates being told what they can say and who they can talk to.

    This debate has come up many times before on the fediverse. Most people do not support the site being turned into 4chan.

    Many instances are run relatively stricter than other instances (such as beehaw and lemmy.blahaj) and specific communities require higher levels of moderation maintain a level of quality (particular subreddits not present on the fediverse function like this right now such as askscience, askhistorians etc).


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    No, it would still be present if someone wasn’t running any blocklists.

    “It would be bad” and “it isn’t how it’s supposed to work” are not substantial arguments.

    Yes, they are. The Fediverse is ultimately shaped by what the users want. If most of the users don’t want to lose the moderation tools because they find the outcome undesirable, then it won’t happen.

    You are in a very small minority.




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    Yes, so you mean people can simply import other users block-lists. That’s the only difference. But if someone new arrived, and didn’t know of one - they would be met with a wall of spam and abuse.

    Moreover, I’d also add that websites have a legal requirement to remove child porn.

    Your system just converts communities into hashtags. It’s in opposition to what this site is.