Piefed.social Staff
Community owner of !television@piefed.social and !obscuremusic@piefed.social


This is what blights so many small reddit alternatives.
The initial wave of users onto reddit clones often include a disproportionate amount of malcontents. A lot of people who don’t play well with others, who are banned from reddit (or at least banned from lots of subreddits) usually turn up first on these reddit alternatives and disrupt the community by repeatedly showing anti-social or disruptive, attention seeking behaviour. It’s not even necessarily related to any political persuasion. This stuff can collapse budding alternatives.
The first wave of new users on reddit alternatives are, in my experience, more likely to have a lot of problem users and since the sites are so small, and usually sparsely moderated, they are much more disruptive than they would be on reddit. The Fediverse is large enough to avoid the problems of that to some extent now (a problem user who makes alts to troll, and bait and harass is a lot more visible on a small reddit clone with 1000 users vs. 50,000) but there’s something to be said by growing and ignoring the problems (as Reddit itself had done - which is why it’s now a site utterly infested with bots and astroturfers and trolls etc).
The hope here is that the Fediverse can implement useful tools that disrupt the typical pattern of behaviour that these people present so they don’t increase and fester as the network grows. Best to nip this stuff now whilst the userbase is manageable.


It’s on Piefed. Piefed just automatically removes all posts by accounts less than 24 hours old that self-delete.


The person in question here is permanently banned from the Fediverse (effectively ban on sight for most instances) in part for spamming, but also because of maladaptive personality traits. They don’t accept that and instead still wish to “help” the fediverse via providing content (news spam)


This seems to be dealing with the issue of finding them after the fact, rather than just automatically purging the posts. So it does help, but the best solution here is to just automate it.


Piefed already automatically has a toggle in its settings that can be activated. On piefed.social any account that self-deletes within 24 hours has all of its posts purged.
This is a lemmy problem.


You can set up keywords on piefed to filter out.


Piefed is much newer so the clients don’t have the support they have with Lemmy.


Too bad Matrix is just terrible.
There isn’t a decent Discord alternative rn


Spamming it everywhere.


I’d note that the same phenomenon exists on Reddit. You’d be surprised how many subreddits on a site much larger are maintained purely by the power of a few posters who feed the community with posts.
I’d also argue that television and movies on piefed.social, per activity, are much more active than what you suggest there.


Absolutely fine. I can interact much better with the fediverse on here except search. I find Lemmy does search functions better currently.
That would be one of those mandatory blacklists to which I referred. And now I’m repeating myself.
So a “mandatory blacklist” sounds an awful lot like just a admin ban which is no different to what exists now.
Just say, “bwaaaah! I don’t like it” and be done with it.
I don’t. But for many other reasons to.
It would be present on a guy’s computer and the network would block any communication with him. I think that’s as good as it gets.
No, from the way you have described it - people who have enabled a blocklist that block his account would block any communication with him and thus blacklist his child porn. But anyone else who enters the website new without any blocks up would see it.
I think you’re dead wrong there. I think that everybody hates being told what they can say and who they can talk to.
This debate has come up many times before on the fediverse. Most people do not support the site being turned into 4chan.
Many instances are run relatively stricter than other instances (such as beehaw and lemmy.blahaj) and specific communities require higher levels of moderation maintain a level of quality (particular subreddits not present on the fediverse function like this right now such as askscience, askhistorians etc).
No, it would still be present if someone wasn’t running any blocklists.
“It would be bad” and “it isn’t how it’s supposed to work” are not substantial arguments.
Yes, they are. The Fediverse is ultimately shaped by what the users want. If most of the users don’t want to lose the moderation tools because they find the outcome undesirable, then it won’t happen.
You are in a very small minority.
That is my argument. The Fediverse has to remove child-porn. Simply allowing to be filtered out by users isn’t good enough legally.
Moreover, the system you call for would degrade communities as merely being twitter hashtags. That’s simply not how this is supposed to work.
No, because the child porn would still be present. Not good enough legally.
There is no support for your ideas on the fediverse.
Yes, so you mean people can simply import other users block-lists. That’s the only difference. But if someone new arrived, and didn’t know of one - they would be met with a wall of spam and abuse.
Moreover, I’d also add that websites have a legal requirement to remove child porn.
Your system just converts communities into hashtags. It’s in opposition to what this site is.
people can already do this via blocking, but no-one regards that as sufficient.
They tend to use similar names. Not always though. Not sure if you’re talking about the same person.