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    11 days ago

    It’s a great way to get arrested or killed, scare people away from resistance for fear of their safety, and embolden fascism by turning a constitutionally protected peaceful resistance into a domestic threat.

    How many people with guns do you estimate it takes to overthrow the largest military in the world by force?

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      11 days ago

      One good guy with a 9mm is all it takes to take down a bad guy with 300 reaper drones

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      10 days ago

      Dude the president just declared birthright citizenship illegal and deployed the mari!es to crack down on peaceful protests against ice blatant violating the 4th amemdment.

      Nobody. Gives. A. Shit. About your fucking constitution.

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        No, he didn’t. He wrote an executive order. That’s not a law. It’s a directive to the executive branch, and we are in no way obligated to follow it as citizens.

        SCOTUS ruled that a district judge cannot impose a nationwide injunction against the executive order. Each judge will now have to rule on the case of birthright citizenship independently. The 14th amendment is very clear.

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          He declared, and people are going along. ‘Law’ does not seem to matter here.

          We are not obligated as citizens. Thats what the men sith guns are for.

          scotus says

          Thats some tepid-ass bullshit for a part of thr constitution, it almost doesnt matter that the administration is going to wipe their asses with it.

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            10 days ago

            So because you believe something will happen, we should lead a small, unsuccessful, violent revolution to ensure that it does happen?

            How about you keep your big feelings to yourself while the people who have successfully grown a resistance from a few hundred thousand to ~10M in four months continue to successfully plan and execute a real resistance.

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              10 days ago

              You use that phrase a lot. I feel like you’re not actually reading what im typing.

              It’s not a resistance if it can’t actually do anything. I’m not sure the milder thing is necessarily the easy sell.

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                10 days ago

                What about growing numbers is confusing to you? 10M people is ~2% of our nation. We couldn’t collectively get anything done, yet. We’re growing a resistance through organized protests.

                You clearly haven’t read enough on the topic. Do some research and then we can talk. Until then, your opinion is woefully uninformed.

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                  You’re just repeating talking points and numbers, not engaging with what im saying. You can see how that might make me feel vindicated unexpectedly quickly?

                  I know the first piece of theory you read is very heady, but please keep reading.

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                    Yes. I’ve cited sources, provided facts, and quoted statistics. You’ve repeatedly used inflammatory language to share your feelings. How could you possibly think your argument is credible based on emotion. Provide documentation refuting my claim of peaceful protests being an effective engagement system to grow our numbers and I’ll reconsider my stance, but not before.

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            10 days ago

            Then why haven’t we been arrested for protesting yet? Oh, right, because it’s still protected.

            Maybe you should talk to a therapist about those big feelings instead of typing all caps and name-calling.

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              10 days ago

              The big word is YET.

              They are funding ICE with 10 billion dollars. ICE will not be used just for immigration. It will be filled with Nationalist goons and thugs and ICE will be the group that goes after citizens and dissenters.

              Give it a year and large protests against the current regime will probably not be allowed.

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                So you think it makes sense to bring violence and provoke that step before we have the numbers we need for a successful resistance, rather than continuing to grow our numbers under our legal protections?

                Do you see how your argument makes no sense?

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                  10 days ago

                  I think you mistake me for someone else. I’ve made no argument here.

                  Having said that, I think you need to start doing something yesterday. You need to start shooting at ICE if they come masked, without badges or identifying names. You have no way to distinguish them from random cartel kidnappers.

                  If you have no idea who they are, what department they work under, if they have a valid order to take a person, or information where they are taking that person, and no way to lodge a complaint against the agent, this is basically an outlaw. A threat. A risk to life, liberty and happiness.

                  These people should be shot at.

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      11 days ago

      50 million? The population of the US is something like 340 million and there are more guns than people in this country.

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      10 days ago

      I think it’s hilarious that the US navy has the second largest Air Force in the world but people think they’re going to take it on with some handguns and rifles.