• Fedditor385@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Unlike all other examples, people of the EU don’t share common language or culture, so I am not sure if it’s really aplicable and realistic. We don’t have any deep interpersonal connections with people from other countries. Being from the same continent and having the same currency or even values is not enough if you don’t speak the same language, don’t celebrate the same holidays etc.

    Besides, can you imagine asking Europeans where they are from and their first answer is “of course from the EU, you silly!”.

    I wish, but highly unlikely.

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      2 days ago

      From a global perspective, we do share common values and similar languages. A federal EU doesn’t need to be exactly like other federations like the US. The EU has always been it’s own thing, and an European Federation would also be a unique creation. Nothing of what you say would prevent that. Even within a country, people celebrate different holidays. And if you ask a Californian where they are from, they answer California, not USA. The only real blocker is mindless nationalism.

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        2 days ago

        Can you compare the power California has within the US, to the same power a country like Slovenia would have in federal EU? It’s not mindless nationalism, it’s also the very real threat of giving up your own soveregin right to someone or something, that might totally ignore your interests, or continuously put their interests above yours. You see how Trump ignores the interests of California as they are completely opposite, what makes you think that any nation in EU wants to be in the same situation ever in the future, if they don’t have those problems now and can prevent it quite easily, by doing nothing?

        In EU there will never be an European as the leader, they will always be a German, Slowak, Swede… and at that point it’s clear which interests they will push forward.

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          2 days ago

          It’s like you just ignored everything I wrote and went with whatever you had in mind. So there’s not much point in engaging with your arguments.