Edit for context:

My view is transracial isn’t valid and this person is trying to dogwhistle. I’ve already blocked this person, and now they’re going after my friend saying my friend is transphobic because they disagreed with them about transracial being a thing (they’re purposefully leaving the context out so my friend looks transphobic when what my friend really said was transgender is valid but transracial isn’t)

  • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    0
    ·
    edit-2
    3 months ago

    I would say never disengage. We’ve all lost so much disengaging especially if the argument is difficult. It leaves the argument unchallenged and if you can’t answer it and you feel strongly about trans issues what did you think someone casually viewing it would think.

    We need better arguments and we need honesty. If it’s a good argument, it’s a good argument denying it out of feels only weakens the entire thing.

    Lemmy is filled with people who gave the right a red carpet treatment. Probably the last place we should ask questions about engagement to.

    It’s like asking r/relationship about relationship advice. It’s a terrible idea

    • Ada@piefed.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 months ago

      You can’t rationally debate someone out of a position they didn’t reach through rational consideration.

      • Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        0
        ·
        3 months ago

        So you allow them to influence other people with their ideas?

        It’s stuff like this why people in real life all share the same opinion on trans issues and other right wing issues. It’s this stuff that has allowed their arguments to spread. It’s a fundamental misunderstanding of what you were supposed to be doing. You gave them a red carpet and helped contribute to the spread of their propaganda by disengaging. Changing their opinion was not ever said as a goal. You need to challenge their opinion to show it is badly formed. If it isn’t then you need to evaluate yours.

        • Almacca@aussie.zone
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          3 months ago

          So you allow them to influence other people with their ideas?

          I’m prepared to trust other people’s intelligence to see through it, and if they can’t, fuck them as well.