Yes, obviously is it. The PRC has done, and continues to do, bad things. The racist imperialism in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, as well as Guizhou, Yunnan, and Guangxi is bad and should be denounced.
Now, what’s your actual point?
The actions of the PRC do not excuse, and are less genocidal than what is Israel is doing with US support in Palestine, or the attacks on indigenous people in South America and India, taking place due to capitalist expansion (Or indeed the killings and destruction brought about by capitalist expansion of the PRC in Myanmar and Laos).
Hell, if the state of the US keeps up the way LGBT people are treated in the US will become more genocidal than the PRC’s treatment of ethnic minorities. The way the US has treated American Indians may not be quite as culturally corrosive right now, but that’s because the destroy their culture and get rid of the intellectual who speak out part has thankfully, grown less severe over the last 80 years (in part because it had been felt a success by those who wanted to force Indians to integrate and assimilate (read: sinicise (read: be culturally destroyed)).
You certainly picked a doozy of an example, as I think I only ever see it mentioned by people trying to drum up China hate - who usually go on to ignore Palestine, India, Brazil, and I’m sure many ethnic cleansing cases I’m forgetting.
Tankies are very good at ignoring anything even possibly non-ideal in the PRC and USSR (and sometimes even Russia too!).
I’ll try to remember to link it in a new reply to you next time I stumble across it being used in order to deflect from the US or draw criticism to China over the topic at hand.
Holy shit. Shut the fuck up. We don’t live in China during the 2010s. People can care about an active genocide supported by their tax dollars and elected politicians and not be hypocrites for not mentioning “China bad” before every post.
Maybe, I think it’s an older carry-over from days when people would say the admittedly yikes sounding “German race” or “Anglo-Saxon race” or “Gaelic race”. (“Hhmong race”, “Han race”, “Amazigh race”, “Mexica race” all sound less yikes.) I think that makes it clear enough to understand, and according to the OED it can mean a whole raft of genetically linked people, from the clear genetics and culture of direct family upto fictional and orientalistly imposed ideas of unity of people who live in other parts of the world.
Possibly it comes from translating, especially East Asian languages, into English. Maybe just from being less immersed in precise Anglophone Leftist thought? I’m figuring you’re university educated European.
May I circle back to asking you (this and) the reworded question?
Do you accept/believe that ethnic cleansing of the Uyghur ethnicity is taking place in Xinjiang?
Is sending the entire race of uyghurs to a concentration camp ethnic cleansing?
Yes, obviously is it. The PRC has done, and continues to do, bad things. The racist imperialism in Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, as well as Guizhou, Yunnan, and Guangxi is bad and should be denounced.
Now, what’s your actual point?
The actions of the PRC do not excuse, and are less genocidal than what is Israel is doing with US support in Palestine, or the attacks on indigenous people in South America and India, taking place due to capitalist expansion (Or indeed the killings and destruction brought about by capitalist expansion of the PRC in Myanmar and Laos).
Hell, if the state of the US keeps up the way LGBT people are treated in the US will become more genocidal than the PRC’s treatment of ethnic minorities. The way the US has treated American Indians may not be quite as culturally corrosive right now, but that’s because the destroy their culture and get rid of the intellectual who speak out part has thankfully, grown less severe over the last 80 years (in part because it had been felt a success by those who wanted to force Indians to integrate and assimilate (read: sinicise (read: be culturally destroyed)).
My point is to expose the hypocrites, who only use the genocide as a talking point when its convenient vs the people who actually have morals.
If youre willing to call it genocide, im not criticising you
You certainly picked a doozy of an example, as I think I only ever see it mentioned by people trying to drum up China hate - who usually go on to ignore Palestine, India, Brazil, and I’m sure many ethnic cleansing cases I’m forgetting.
Oh thats interestng can you point out an example?
Ive never seen that, but I do see tankies constantly not care about genocides in china and only seem to care about it happening in other countries.
Tankies are very good at ignoring anything even possibly non-ideal in the PRC and USSR (and sometimes even Russia too!).
I’ll try to remember to link it in a new reply to you next time I stumble across it being used in order to deflect from the US or draw criticism to China over the topic at hand.
Holy shit. Shut the fuck up. We don’t live in China during the 2010s. People can care about an active genocide supported by their tax dollars and elected politicians and not be hypocrites for not mentioning “China bad” before every post.
Are Uyghur people a “race” now?
Since when?
“They’re a Turkic ethnicity.”
Does that phrasing pass muster?
Sure.
I guess it must be hard for people who were raised from birth to only view the world through the lens of race to distinguish between the two, eh?
Seeing as "race" is a social construct, and the word is generally synonymous with "ethnicity" in common parlance...
Congrats for coming up with a purity test, I guess?
Sorry… what?
I’m starting to think you have reading comprehension issues. Have you gotten checked for dyslexia?
Oh look… the liberal who can’t win an argument is resorting to ableism.
Have you learned to stand for anything yet?
“acts like a duck quacks like a duck” your words.
Edited for clarity.
Race is a social construct.
The word “race (n.)” is used as a synonym of "ethnicity (n.) in many people’s everyday speech.
Thanks.
Is this a US thing? That would explain a lot.
Maybe, I think it’s an older carry-over from days when people would say the admittedly yikes sounding “German race” or “Anglo-Saxon race” or “Gaelic race”. (“Hhmong race”, “Han race”, “Amazigh race”, “Mexica race” all sound less yikes.) I think that makes it clear enough to understand, and according to the OED it can mean a whole raft of genetically linked people, from the clear genetics and culture of direct family upto fictional and orientalistly imposed ideas of unity of people who live in other parts of the world.
Possibly it comes from translating, especially East Asian languages, into English. Maybe just from being less immersed in precise Anglophone Leftist thought? I’m figuring you’re university educated European.
May I circle back to asking you (this and) the reworded question? Do you accept/believe that ethnic cleansing of the Uyghur ethnicity is taking place in Xinjiang?
Hello grammar police? there is an ethnic cleansing going on maybe like read a wikipedia article abouit it or something!
People’s conception of “race” says a lot… what do you think yours says about you?
What does it say about me? Youre walking past genocide to argue semantics, I think that says a lot about you
Let me take a wild guess - you only care about genocide when your white supremacist friends tells you it’s a genocide, right?
Howzabout that (supposed) genocide taking place in South Africa, eh? I bet you like talking about that one, too.
No, Im not a commie, I actually care about genocide everywhere.
So that’s a yes, eh white supremacist?