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      In Arabic we use DD/MM/YYYY but it actually gets written as YYYY/MM/DD since Arabic is written and read from right to left. When the year is dropped the confusing part is not what format is used here but rather does this website/software support RTL or is it just regular unformatted ASCII.

      Edit: it’s still not ISO 8601 and it doesn’t solve the sorting issue

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        ♥️ this is what I decide to use at work. Dots are superior than dashes in my opinion because they prevent line breaks

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            How so? At least dots haven’t prevented me in the past (windows, Mac, android, various cloud storage).

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              Most OSes will let you do it but 2025.01.01.png could have issues compared to 2025-01-01.png. Plus I think it’s a little clearer what the file type actually is.

              Its just a little pedantic thing I’ve picked up after years of being a sysadmin. In my mind slashes (/) are reserved for directory delimitation and the period (.) is to separate the file name from the file type. I also have a little bit longer of a list of “reserved” characters for other reasons (%, #, and {`}`)

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      And, when the context of the year is understood, you can just drop it. At least Japanese does this (and I’m pretty sure Chinese does as well).

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        You shouldn’t do that, because if you’re writing it down it means you want to either refer to it later or have someone else refer to it later. The year changes and you’re searching for that receipt or email… why set yourself up for failure?

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          BRB – I have to tell the country of Japan they’re doing dates wrong /s.

          For the things I’m thinking about, the year generally doesn’t matter. I’m thinking advertisements or even things that say like ‘Spring 2025 menu 2025年の春メヌー’ or something which preserves context. A lot are also written on shop whiteboards and such which are changed fairly regularly. In my own notes, in anything I may care about that far into the future, I do write the full date in ISO-8601

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      Could be improved by swapping hours and minutes. They are more important after all.

      Also that way the time isn’t in order anymore.

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      yyyy-mm-dd is specified by ISO 8601, so there’s really no argument it isn’t the objectively correct format.

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      I always use yyyy.mm.dd as my date format whenever I sign and date documents. I also use a pictograph instead of initials. Someone tried to forge a contract edit to try and get out of paying but used the mm/dd/yy format. The moment my lawyer showed this to their lawyer, they settled immediately for the original amount, legal fees, and late payment penalties. Dumbasses.

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        That’s beautiful. I love a bit of personal standards to fuck someone else’s day up.

        I typically change my responses on the form to Calibri if using MS Office. It’s not enough to pique anyone’s interest, but it’s different enough to spot what I’ve added to a form rather than the usual Arial additions if you’ve been told about it.

        Someone at my office tried to say I’d said something on a form when I hadn’t, and took great delight pointing out the slight difference in typeface on the field that wasn’t my edit.

        It’s satisfying as fuck coming back at someone with receipts.

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        So I could use a different than usual date format for a document I might want to recall

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          The situation was more like “Dear lawyer, your clients have committed a federal felony offense and they did it in such a sloppy manner that they didn’t even follow our standard document formatting. Drop the suit, have them pay our legal fees and a fine, and we won’t inform the US District Attorney and then ask the State Bar of Texas to look into whether you knowingly partook in this scheme”.

          I’m glad I’m near retirement. These sort of situations chip away at the soul.

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    What Americans are calling people idiots for saying (day) of (month)? We say it both ways all the time. 4th of July, July 4th… it’s not a complicated thing.

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      It’s like saying USAians don’t have a sense of humour. Some USAians are MAGAt knob heads, some are perfectly reasonable people. More or less like anywhere else.

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    I like DD MON YYYY. Feels very grand and unambiguous, but people always look at me funny for using it.

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      MM/DD/YYYY genuinely causes issues, because it’s very easily misread by the rest of the world, and vise versa for Americans.

      I have been mislead more than once, because the MM and DD are both ≤ 12.

      MM/DD/YYYY needs to die

      Month Day YYYY is fine, because it’s unambiguous when the month is spelled out.

      YYYY.MM.DD, or similar, is the only way to sort dates properly anyway.

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      It’s all fun and games until someone drops a 7/4 and you don’t know which country they’re from

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        I only deal with people from one country, but I always write out the month so there’s no confusion in important messages. Even including the day of the week as a type of verification.

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          RIP Australia and our DD/MM/YYYY (and rest of the former British Empire I assume).

          Drives me nuts when software doesn’t properly localise.

          Looking at you, Excel for web which defaults to MM/DD/YYYY in our company for some reason, even though the desktop app has no issues…

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    We write it how you’d say it. Outside of holidays or days of remembrance we write it how you say it.

    For example today is 4/13/25. April 13th 2025. If you say the 13th of April you’re fuckin weird.

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    Don’t mock them.
    One day you will meet one in person and he’ll beat you up if he’s 7 foot, 3/5 thumbs and 2 elbows tall.