Example: I believe that IP is a direct contradiction of nature, sacrificing the advancement of humanity and the world for selfish gain, and therefore is sinful.

Edit: pls do not downvote the comments this is a constructive discussion

Edit2: IP= intellectal property

Edit3: sort by controversal

  • Gabadabs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 months ago

    Animals don’t exist for us to use. They aren’t ours. Outside of survival scenarios, it’s wrong to eat animals or take things like milk or eggs from animals. It’s fucked up.

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      4 months ago

      Firstly, do you mean only animals aren’t possessions? What about all other things and resources?

      Secondly, are you saying people should do they best to keep consumption to a minimum, while surviving themselves? Does this mean we could let all animals die and stop existing because we have no use for them, or should we do our best to maintain biodiversity and life on this planet?

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      5 months ago

      Extend that to plants and mineral resources, and you’ll be both fully moral and dead.

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          5 months ago

          They also don’t exist for us and aren’t ours. Your first comment didn’t mention consciousness or feelings.

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            5 months ago

            I mentioned specifically animals, and didn’t feel the need to go into detail to why I feel that way. It doesn’t feel like you’re really commenting on good faith, so I’m not gonna respond any further than this.

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          4 months ago

          That hasn’t been proven yet, and plants and trees do have sensations and awareness of others around them.

          Also I don’t understand how you can reconcile your opinion about animals when they hunt each other, play with their preys, and are sometimes cannibalistic.

          • Gabadabs@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            4 months ago

            Why impose human concepts of ethics onto animals that survive based on instinct? Humans are omnivores, and in places where we have access to Lemmy, we also have access to things like grocery stores and farmers markets. We don’t need to eat animals to be healthy, nor do we need to eat any other animal products. We do so out of tradition, or familiarity, and then justify the horrible way we treat other life because we like the taste. Plant life having sensations isn’t equivalent to the sensations that we know that animals have, and the suffering we know farming animals causes. And rather frankly, eating animals requires growing more plants and killing more plants than just eating the plants.