I went to a Gamestop the other day, and they had a little section for pre-owned games for older systems (think Xbox360, PS2, DS, etc). I was perusing and grabbed some games, but I noticed something, the cases that have the XBOX360 games have a giant “RETRO GAMING” on it in the centre. So I am like wtf, I grew up with the XBOX360, what the hell do they mean “retro”.
So I went and asked like friends and other people if the XBOX360 is retro now, and basically everyone was like “yeah”. I was talking to my EX about it and she was like “the xbox came out in 2005/6. There is more time between us and the xbox360 than there was between the xbox and the SNES when the xbox came out. Was the SNES “retro” when the xbox360 came out?”
I am like not ready, not willing to accept the XBOX360 as retro. Because that is saying my thing that I grew up with is “retro” or “old” now and im not ready to accept that because im not ready to be old.
Gamestop needs to go back to when their cases looked like thisI miss those styles, so much stuff has a corporate sanitized look and feel these days
I am also often upset, confused and scared by the passage of time
This shit hurts me every time. I remember playing xbox360 in high school with my friends. I’m getting old.
We were playing the Nintendo 64 and original Xbox when I was in high school.
This was how I felt when the post about the PS2 turning 25 came by a few days ago. What the fuck happened.
Why is everything worse now lol
Capitalism.
About as old as NES on the Wii
Abe Simpson was younger as a character at Xbox 360 release (first appearance 1988) than the Xbox 360 is today.
It was the Gamecube for me. I was like, “How the hell can a recent game like Metroid Prime be ‘retro’?” and then I realized if the game was a person It’d be old enough to drink… and then it got a remaster right after that realization.
And it never got cool super-computer action like N64 from 2015 Fantastic Four even…lol.
That’s OK, the Xbox 360 was heavily featured in Grandma’s Boy, which is a much better deal.
This hurts me. I have vivid memories of playing Halo 3 and Hexic back when I was in middle school.
First time?
Halo (combat evolved) came out when I was a junior in highschool.
Before that, it was GoldenEye and then Perfect Dark.
And I even got to play some Timesplitters at PS2 launch because the rich kid got the multitap and extra controllers.
Heck, we’re (significantly) farther away from the CE anniversary launch than it was from the original.
When your fact about CE Anniversary hit for OoT and OoT3D, I felt crippled.
In my opinion, retro games/consoles are a lot like vintage cars. It doesn’t matter how much time has passed because it’s not about their age, it’s about the era they came from.
In the case of vintage cars, it’s any car manufactured prior to 1930. In the case of retro game consoles I’d say it’s anything prior to 1994.
Edit: typo. 1995 should have been 1994. The launch year of the PS1 and the founding year of the ESRB.
That’s a surprisingly narrow definition.
So do you look at something like a Studebaker Commander Coupe and go “well obviously that’s modern”?
No, definitely not modern, possibly a classic, though that term has some additional qualifications, so I’m not sure.
But 1930 is chosen and is generally recognized as the cutoff for vintage cars by most collectors clubs and organizations, because that year marked a major industry wide shift, for consumers, manufacturers, and regulation, and while there have been relatively minor shifts in the industry, not much has really changed since.
Similarly, 1994 (made a typo above) marked a similar transition, the PS1 was released that year, marking a shift to 3D graphics, the ESRB was established in the US, and consumer adoption reached a point where you could finally say video gaming was here to stay. And just like with the automotive industry in 1930, things in gaming shifted from a period of rapid experimentation, innovation, and regulation to a period of slow, gradual improvement along the lines established by the fifth generation of consoles in 1994.
1930 is chosen and is generally recognized as the cutoff for vintage cars
By who? I’m a big car guy and have never heard someone say a car has to be near 100 years old to be vintage. Most laws here in the states say 30. This is the only real source I could find that agrees with you but then it goes on to disagree with itself so idk.
Personally, I’d say “vintage” is 1950s and into the 1960s. I would say the C1 Corvette is “vintage”, but the C2 is “classic”.
https://veterancarclubofwesternaustralia.wildapricot.org/
https://wikicars.org/en/Vintage_car
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vintage_car
A cursory google search also turned up a few other clubs with that definition in the site preview blurb (some even from outside Australia) but the sites have expired or invalid https certs, so I’d rather not link to them.
Though it does seem the majority use a broader definition.
It is not retro. It is “Modern,” like how art from the 50s and 60s is called “Modern Art.”
Here is an easy chart:
1st Console Gen (Magnavox Odyssey) : Historic
2nd Console Gen (ColecoVision) : Antique
3rd Console Gen (NES) : Vintage
4th Console Gen (SNES) : Retro
5th Console Gen (N64) : Classic
6th Console Gen (XBOX) : Renaissance
7th Console Gen (X360) : Modern
8th Console Gen (XBOX ONE) : Post-Modern
9th Console Gen (XBOX SERIES) : Contemporary
I’m with you, retro is when they were still counting bits
its old but it isn’t retro at least not yet. Most xbox 360 games have modern game design none of them have that “retro” feel. Its an old system but none of the games feel old. Now the OG xbox being considered retro makes me feel like a dinosaur.
I would say “no” because the 360 did have the capability of 720p and 1080p. There isn’t much you have to do to get it working with a modern television.
That’s not the case with a TRULY retro console, either in terms of resolution or connectivity.
That’s not how “retro” works. If a song came out today, as opposed to any number of Green Day songs, which came out in the 90s, and 2000s, are considered retro.
You don’t have to do anything different with todays songs vs Green Day songs. You can play them just the same way.
Yet one is clearly retro.
Music and games aren’t quite the same deal. If you need specialized equipment to play a game, it’s retro.
What about handhelds?
Handhelds are really their own deal. I’d argue vintage is anything up through the OG Gameboy.
Retro would be anything other than that, with the possible excrptions of the Nokia NGage and Neo Geo Pocket (B&W) which would also be vintage.
I’m not sure I’m following this definition, everything after the game boy is retro? Or is it only the game boy and older?
That’s just the cord that came with the system, nothing very special about it. And it’s still perfectly compatible with modern TVs
Disagree, but that standard every proprietary console except xbox and ps are retro.
It’s simply few generations older. If teenagers today weren’t born, It’s retro.
Naturally I’m biased because the stuff I grew up on is officially “Vintage” at this point. ;)
I never realized it’s legit a mini transmitter to your TV’s Antennae @.@.
Like wireless HDMI.
But now we stuck with DRM for failed ATSC 3.0 release :/
Imagine what could have been.
Another way to differentiate would be things like rendering technology. While raytracing is starting to be partially utilized a little bit, I’d hardly say it’s taken over yet, so there’s not much technological difference between a 360 and a PS5. Mostly boils down to more cores and faster with some minor extra features. Far more difference between even the SNES and the N64 than between the PS1 and the PS5 imo.
You could also use Internet access as a determinant, but then even snes and Sega Genesis wouldn’t be retro (at least in Japan).
Could just define retros as anything that fits at least one or 2 of those 4 characteristics of retro video game consoles, but the xbox360 is pretty much modern by all of them.
