I’ve seen two posts today of ICE agents arresting and terrorising ‘alleged’ US citizens. Where are the bearers of arms who bear arms in case of government tyranny? Is now the time to rise up and force back this disgraceful bullshit we’re seeing in the US?
Who wants to be the first to martyr themselves getting turned into Swiss cheese after firing the first shot? Is it you? Why not?
That is your answer.
Exactly. And after the first martyr gets domed or swiss cheesed, all of the armchair analysts will come out of the woodwork creating a prevailing opinion like “well it would have been better if he had done X instead of Y, rookie mistake, what an idiot” and life will go on fundamentally unchanged besides that person now being dead and posthumously tut-tutted at.
Thomas Matthew Crooks tentatively raising his hand
Yeah this is spot on - Americans don’t have a sense of sacrifice for the community. Other countries have, in the past, shown that their population is ready to suffer for the benefit of their families and compatriots, even when knowing the risk of not coming back was almost certain. The US never did, and continues not to. Lots of words about freedom, no action. It’s been a year of your president shitting over your beloved constitution, and the only opposition has been memes.
Well it can’t be me because I don’t live in the US.
And over the years, I’ve heard the argument for bearing arms in case of government tyranny… And here we are, government agency kidnapping people off the street like my grandparents were in Poland.
The only people who really say that are paranoid psychotic fascists who have been stockpiling weapons for decades
They’re now in control
An yet you still don’t answer whether you would be the first person to pull a weapon and be turned into Swiss cheese. Regardless of how many people may or may not have weapons, only an extremely low % of people want to basically commit suicide by trying the above.
I’ve provided context to my question which I should’ve initially. I don’t think it’s relevant what I would personally do as the question is towards the argument for bearing arms (which I’ve heard a lot of) is in case of government tyranny. So let’s try to keep it within that context, however, it is a difficult question to answer from my perspective because I don’t live within gun culture. I believe what we see in US is heavily cultural. I may have a different view if I were born and raised in such a culture. But in short, the answer is most likely a no, regardless of how angry I am about it but then again…
The “resist government tyranny” people have always been a (very vocal) fringe group. Quasi-historical, quasi-fantasy, a little bit like historical re-enactors, but with a plot that makes it seem like they could be talking about today and real life. AFAIK, no one outside the groups actually think they will be the people to lead an armed resistance, mostly because no one outside of the groups actually thinks there will ever be a circumstance involving a widespread, armed resistance.
The one I knew, we’re sitting in this little pizza shop having lunch, and he starts going on about how he’s mapped the exits and positions of cover in the restaurant, in case a crew would barge in to rob the cafe and its patrons. Had his eye on a couple of people who might be troublemakers. Obviously had his gun with him, but probably too many people around to use it if the place did get raided. All in this nice, quiet, suburban neighborhood.