• BC_viper@lemmy.world
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    They fucking caved. And they are now fucking traitors. And there is only one option for a traitor fuck.

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      The 8 who caved: Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada Sen. Dick Durbin of Illinois Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania Sen. Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire Sen. Tim Kaine of Virginia Sen. Angus King of Maine Sen. Jacky Rosen of Nevada Sen. Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire

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          But they HAD to! The shutdown was so UNPOPULAR that democrats all LOST in the most recent election!

          /s not because the sarcasm isn’t obvious, but because I don’t trust centrists to not ignore the sarcasm on purpose.

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            The shutdown was so UNPOPULAR that democrats all LOST in the most recent election!

            If you think that the FEDERAL shutdown was a major issue for the Mayor of New York City (who had been leading in the polls for months) and the governorship of New Jersey and Virginia (where the polls had also been clear since before the shutdown), you’re out of your gourd.

            Or bullshitting in bad faith, as per usual.

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              If you think that the FEDERAL shutdown was a major issue for the Mayor of New York City (who had been leading in the polls for months) and the governorship of New Jersey and Virginia (where the polls had also been clear since before the shutdown), you’re out of your gourd.

              If you think that the voters didn’t respond well to a party that was finally pretending to start stand up for them, you have no idea how branding works. Well, at least they capitulated like they do on everything but genocide support, so healthcare subsidies are going away. So it’s a win for you. Democrats existing brand, the one everyone but centrists like you were pissed off about, is maintained.

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                If you think that the voters didn’t respond well to a party that was finally pretending to start stand up for them, you have no idea how branding works.

                The same voters who increasingly blamed the Dems for the shutdown as it’s dragged on?

                I’m sorry that you live in a fantasy land instead of the real world. I understand that the reality-based community is deeply offensive to you.

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                  The same voters who increasingly blamed the Dems for the shutdown as it’s dragged on?

                  I suppose we’ll see if capitulation makes them more popular.

                  I’m sorry that you live in a fantasy land instead of the real world.

                  Says the guy who is trying to convince people that capitulation is a good thing after the party was rewarded for standing its ground.

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    C’mon guys. The Republicans are totally going to fix healthcare just like they promised in 1993, 2002, 2008, 2010, 2016 2017, 2020, 2024, The Last Week.

    Shouldn’t take more than about two weeks.

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    They held out until the election was over. They had the voters behind them on this and naturally betrayed them immediately as soon as they got what they wanted.

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          Americans are divided in who they blame more for the shutdown: In a choice between congressional Democrats and congressional Republicans, 32% blame Democrats most, 35% Republicans, and 28% both equally. Compared to when we asked this question in the October 17 - 20 Economist / YouGov survey, the share blaming mostly Republicans has fallen 4 percentage points and the share blaming both sides equally has gone up by 4 points.

          A shutdown, furthermore, that most voters were against to begin with.

          I’m happy that the Dems held out. Hell, I’m happy that the majority is still holding out, despite those breaking ranks looking to undermine the effort. But that’s not the same as pretending we are the fucking majority

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            Funny that you didn’t post the parts immediately before and after that snippet. Before:

            A YouGov survey released Friday found 32 percent of respondents blame Democrats for the shutdown, while 35 percent fault Republicans and 28 percent say both parties are equally responsible.

            After:

            But over the past month, net approval for how parties are handling the shutdown has worsened for both President Trump (-21 to -27) and congressional Republicans (-23 to -27). Net approval for congressional Democrats has stayed low but mostly unchanged (-25 to -26) since October, according to YouGov.

            You’re just hyper-focusing on the part that you find rhetorically convenient. More people still blamed the Republicans and support for the Republicans’s handling of the shutdown was falling faster.

            A shutdown, furthermore, that most voters were against to begin with.

            Lmao did you just provide more evidence to undermine your own position?

            Who would you blame more if there is a shutdown of the federal government at the end of the month, the Democrats in Congress, Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress or both equally? Or have you not heard enough to say?

            Democrats in Congress 19%

            Donald Trump and the Republicans in Congress 26%

            Grow a spine.

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              You’re just hyper-focusing on the part that you find rhetorically convenient. More people still blamed the Republicans and support for the Republicans’s handling of the shutdown was falling faster.

              “More people blamed the Republicans, but most people are not in support of the shutdown and the numbers for the Dems are worsening”

              Yes, clearly this contradicts what I initially commented.

              Go back to remedial literacy. Get a passing grade this time, if you can understand which of the funny symbols that is.

              Lmao did you just provide more evidence to undermine your own position?

              I’m sorry that you’re illiterate.

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              Grow a spine.

              Grow a brain, or a sense of morality. But pro-genocide bootlickers like you revel in the deaths of minorities, if only it’s done by the fascists wearing the right team colors. That’s why you deny the Uyghur Genocide, after all.

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                But pro-genocide bootlickers like you revel in the deaths of minorities, if only it’s done by the fascists wearing the right team colors

                Looked in a mirror lately?

                I don’t support any genocide, the way you do.

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                  Looked in a mirror lately?

                  This you, denialist bootlicker?

                  I don’t support any genocide, the way you do.

                  You’re right, because I don’t support genocide. We are clearly very far apart on that matter.

                  Sorry that I’ve been calling out Palestinian genocide for over a decade. I know that’s terribly inconvenient for bootlickers like you who desperately want others to be your mirror image. I’m sorry that my position on genocide isn’t determined by team colors.

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          So no response to actual evidence that the voters weren’t behind them, cool.

          I guess your inner Republican craves ‘truthiness’ over truth, huh?