• psud@aussie.zone
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    19 hours ago

    If we count the modifier keys:

    Vim: esc, shift+:, w, q, Enter

    Emacs: ctrl-s, crtl+x ctrl+c, or use the menu options

    I use both, but find Emacs much quicker, though vim is easier to learn, though Emacs is easier while you’re learning

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      19 hours ago

      i’ve never had the time to get into emacs, would love to though.

      also, some layouts have the : on its own key, and if you include the esc in vim commands you’re not using vim correctly :)

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        18 hours ago

        ESC

        Surely you’re editing right before exiting, why else would you be saving?

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          18 hours ago

          not necessarily. you could also have done a yank-paste, or a repeated action, or had a command output into the buffer.

          it’s a good habit to always leave the editor in normal mode between actions, because that makes for a cleaner edit history with smaller changesets in the undo tree.

          …vim is sort of like driving stick in that way.

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            14 hours ago

            Yeah, having used both, my preference is for Emacs, which also comes with the bonus of menu driven ways of doing most things when you’ve been away long enough to have forgotten a keyboard shortcut. I have always needed a cheat sheet handy when away from vim for a few months

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              9 hours ago

              i’ve moved to helix, partly to stop myself tinkering and partly because the reversed command model is just easier. plus it has popup helpers.