• supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz
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    1 day ago

    Do you think these men have ever actually made a woman orgasm? Like… in their entire life?

    They wouldnt know how even if they wanted to.

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      To them, women are possessions, and possessions don’t experience pleasure: they’re things.

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        The whole approach to how they’re encouraging men to live life is so sad, not just for whoever is unfortunate enough to end up as their partner, but for the men too.

        Like the belief that reproduction is the only reason to have a partner. You’re not even supposed to enjoy spending time with the person you choose as your partner is just such a toxic expectation for everyone involved.

        Behind the Bastards is currently covering Himmler, and learning about his “3 types of women” and his eventual policy shift against traditional marriage and towards polygamy (and as a consequence increased birth rates) makes me think the toxic nonsense Ben Shapiro and Andrew Tate peddle probably isn’t too far away from just openly pivoting to something similar.

        It’s far beyond even the stupid 1950’s “I hate my wife” trope. You just shouldn’t want to spend time with your partner except for intercourse. You should only want to hang out with other men at all times when not “intercoursing,” and If you do for some reason find yourself enjoying spending time with your partner, you’re less of a man.

        And of course you never spend any time with your offspring bc that’s woman’s work. So what if you’re creating a world full of Elon Musks and Andrew Tates with each baby you pop out. Those guys turned out great right? Do they need therapy? God yes. Will they ever get therapy? Hell no!

        Rinse and repeat the cycle for the next and all future generations. Again, just miserable for everyone involved.

        It seems like brainwashing men to believe this weird shit now, is just the first step towards being able to continue to control them once the more extreme policy changes are implemented. For example, if you never really talk to your partner or view them as anything other than a human incubator, you’re not going to care or even listen to her complaints about her losing her own rights.

        Since you don’t even really care about your partner or your kids, you’ll be ready to move on to a new partner and a whole new family in no time to just continue increasing those birthrates. Increased birthrates means there’s always an endless supply of soldiers ready to fight and die for their leaders. (Unless something like famine or disease wipes out a bunch of them, but thats not really your concern because frankly, worrying is a feminine trait. /s)

        It’s really not that dissimilar to cults that split apart families bc the real familial relationship is a threat to the fake idea of family and belonging that a cult has to maintain to keep it’s members.

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        Yeah and that is possibly the least heterosexual, “manly” trait I can possibly imagine.

        These people define themselves around being one of only two genders and thus the attractiveness of a person is most reasonably defined by the opposite gender “that is supposed to be attracted to them” and yet none of these men could have ever possibly made a woman orgasm on purpose in their entire life, you just have to listen to them for 10 seconds to realize that…

        …so according to their own definitions they are incredibly unmanly men if they can’t bring a woman to a place of utmost pleasure even as she does so for them, they are inadequately manly, they are basically boys who haven’t learned what it means to be a man yet right? How could it be otherwise if they so catastrophically fail to fulfill the desires of the very gender they are supposed to be entirely obessed with pursuing at a definitional level?

        Even if you take the toxic framing of masculinity that women are objects to pursue, I would still bother to learn more about objects I spent my entire life pursuing and coveting than these men do about their wives. Ughh spits on ground these people are lazy and disgusting even according to their own trash standards.

    • Frezik@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Shapiro can’t even make his wife wet, and has stated this openly as if he’s proud of it. He literally thinks a self-lubricated vag is a sign of a medical issue. If he ever did make a woman orgasm, it was an accident and he was probably disturbed by it.