They shouldn’t be able to do that!

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    6 days ago

    Yes, it is.

    Because it’s my content.
    Because it’s not just a public site, public/private is a false dichotomy.
    Because social networks need to provide effective anti-harassment tools, and if admins/mods are too overworked then that needs to be self-serviced.

    Defederation exists
    Instance bans exist
    Community bans exist
    Why are all of those good, but individual bans aren’t?
    Why are all of those effective (at least partially), but not for individuals?
    Or is the argument that all of those should be disposed of, too?

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      6 days ago

      No, it is not.

      Because as soon as you post, it is not your content. Because it is a site build around public discourse, there is no dichotomy here let alone a false one. Because there are anti-harassment tools in place, you just want a new way to harass.

      Defederation exists

      Instance bans exist

      Community bans exist

      Why are all of those good, but individual bans aren’t?

      Why are all of those effective (at least partially), but not for individuals?

      Or is the argument that all of those should be disposed of, too?

      Because they are not done by end users in a vacuum. You can go and make your own instance and do all of these things, and are encouraged to do so.

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        6 days ago

        i just want a new way to harass?

        naw fam, i think you’re looking to protect your existing way to harass people.

        the fact that youre suggesting someone just goes and makes their own instance shows that you’re being astronomically disingenuous.

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          Please show me where I am harassing someone, this would be valuable information.

          And yes, I do think that what you are purposing would be abused and used for harassment.

          the fact that youre suggesting someone just goes and makes their own instance shows that you’re being astronomically disingenuous.

          You can go make a community right now, its not hard and very much encouraged. You can also make an instance but that is harder, and also encouraged.

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            6 days ago

            I didnt say you were harassing someone, i said you were protecting the means by which to harass people.

            They’re related. Often, the ability to limit your audience is about making it non trivial for harassers to access your content rather than impossible. fuck you

            go make a community? you’ve already been accusing me of being a power hungry mod, and now you’re telling me to go make a community to mod?
            i dont want to be a mod, being a mod sounds miserable, like ive repeatedly said.
            and lemmy doesn’t have enough users to be splitting up communities anyways. its built to do it, but practically you can’t, despite it being “encouraged”

            LOL at standing up an instance as being a reasonable solution to anything for a normal user or small community.

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              you’ve already been accusing me of being a power hungry mod, and now you’re telling me to go make a community to mod?

              No I am saying you don’t sound like you would be good at it, and then actively encouraged you to do so anyway.

              i dont want to be a mod, being a mod sounds miserable, like ive repeatedly said.

              You have not but I get it, you don’t want the responsibility, just a bit of the power.

              LOL at standing up an instance as being a reasonable solution to anything for a normal user or small community.

              Do you think the people who host instances are some special class? That it is some unattainable goal? Its not as much work as you think, I might spin up one myself this year.