Florida 2026:
Seems logical for a country that has a healthcare system that profits off people being sick… get infectious disease, end up in hospital, go broke
It doesn’t work if doctors, nurses, and the rest of healthcare get sick too. If their kids are sick, they’re typically home with them. Hospitals don’t make money without staff.
These guys don’t appear to be thinking even one step away from the immediate impact.
One can hope that at least some doctors and nurses in Florida still remember the advantages of being alive and healthy due to vaccinations.
Any doctor and nurse who has the reasonable capability of leaving the state is going to do so. Unless they’re batshit crazy, in which case you don’t want to be treated by them anyway.
Sure, healthcare generally gets vaccinated. The cuckoo birds that made headlines are not the majority.
The measles vaccine is ~97% preventative. We count on herd immunity to cover the remainder.
In addition, this anti-vax wave includes removing subsidizing money from the public. Availability of vaccines will decline. Requirements promote availability and free programs.
I haven’t paid for a single COVID shot or booster, have you?
As someone that used to work in a Florida hospital, a disturbing number of people don’t believe in vaccine use.
Yes, but herd immunity only works above a certain level. Vaccinations are not 100% effective and not every doctor or nurse can have all vaccines due to their own health conditions.
I would expect doctors and their kids to be up to date on their vaccines though, probably following the best current advice rather than the requirements.
I know here in Australia, there are vaccines that are not in the required schedule that many doctors recommend for parents.
Yes, but 95-97% effective is sufficient to usually keep one out of trouble. Extincting diseases is best, of course, but prsonally having a high level of immunity is still better that croaking because of a preventable infection.
95-97% effective is just that. It doesn’t work for 3-5% of those inmunised. Whether it reduces disease severity, hospitalisation and mortality are different questions with different stats.
Yea, but 3-5% sick is still better than close to 100% sick.
Of course. But vaccination isn’t magic either. Even if it seems so.
They still get to charge you for the room you’re taking up while not being treated.
Florida is truly the Florida of Florida.
This is going end tragically for an unthinkable number of children and immunocompromised adults.
Yup.
The Republican party are enemies of the people of the United States of America.
that’s the point.
I did an essay on vaccines in Jr. High, 20-25 years ago. I was writing a persuasion essay and I chose vaccines. I always try to provide views from both sides… even back then. As a child, in fucking Jr. High, I found Andrew Wakefield’s study that linked autism and vaccines, found all the evidence against it, found out he lost his medical license for it, and realized “wow, there really is no argument against vaccines. These people are fucking idiots!” Again at the age of 12 ish… fucking anti-vaxxer dipshits…
Vaccines are good as long as they are proven to work, and as long as they are effective enough to be worth the side effects and risks. Big pharma needs to be held accountable and kept honest, because they would definitely try to sell you vaccines that are not necessary or not effective if they could get away with it. It shouldn’t be an all or nothing question.
Go do the research yourself. Vaccines are proven to work. Over, and over, and over again. The side effects are so incredibly rare they might as well be non-existent. Go do some actual fucking research, there is no argument against vaccines. The covid vaccine was in development for 20+ years due to SARS. That’s how it was able to be pushed out so quickly. Go look at all the infectious diseases that are on the rise because dipshit mother fuckers aren’t getting vaccinated or their kids. Its fucking stupid…
I worked in pharma for ten years. Vaccines work, but some work better than others. There have been many vaccines that were pulled after emergency use approval or because the side effects were not worth the disease that they were trying to prevent. Or like the flu vaccine used to make you mildly sick for a few days, but then you still got the flu because they guessed the wrong strain. You can’t just scream that vaccines work to people who have first hand experience with them not working. Otherwise you risk losing their trust in ALL vaccines. This is a big part of why we have a resurgence in the anti vaccine movement. Anyone who has actually researched knows that the topic of vaccines is more complicated than “vaccines good”.
But that is exactly why you can trust them… because they get pulled when its not worth it. You’re correct in that there’s much more nuance than just vaccine=good, but with the totality of the evidence and procedures it can be pretty simply stated with vaccine=good
If they have full fda approval, you can generally trust that they are more beneficial than otherwise. With vaccines that have been available and widely used for decades and even generations, there is basically no risk at all. But I understand hesitation with new vaccines, even if I am not worried about them myself. Most people can’t grasp the level of effort and proof it requires to get approval.
Fucking going backwards. Way to go, USA…wtf.
The way you think of the US, the US thinks of Florida.
And the way the US thinks of Florida, Florida thinks of… uh…
Florida doesn’t do much thinking.
Usually Mississippi. But under Desantis…
Them Missisissys gonna beat us to all that sweet healthcare savins!
US Balkanization when?
Wow. Health crisis incoming.
More sabotage.
I hope that the sea suddenly engulfs and submerges the whole of Florida.
It’s okay. A surge of viral and bacterial diseases will turn FL into toxic soup.
Sounds like Florida is pulling ahead of Texas in their race to the bottom.
Need to build a border, for the safety of the other states.
Honestly states should halt flights from Florida
This black guy compared mandatory vaccines to slavery
He and Kanye probably have a lot in common
They should run the KKK
The last time I was visiting my parents in South Carolina we went to a local art faire thing, and one of the stands was a dude selling art of Confederates. Not just any Confederates, Black Confederates. And the dude selling this art, was a older black man in full fucking Confederate uniform. The best part was the massive bread boards he had full of tiny font Confederate apologia that read like a SovCit manifesto.
Don’t think the color of a person’s skin naturally dictates their opinions on matters that you think it should, people will surprise you every time.
That is genuinely a terrible thing to do as a person of color. Seriously though, people suffered extreme abuse and he is out here saying that getting vaccinated is basically the same.
Even fascists in other countries aren’t this stupid. What do they even want to gain in spreading diseases?
They’re not even smart fascists they’re like crazy, ignorant, stupid fascists
There is a ton of fear about vaccines in some areas. I have a feeling some parents are about to learn some lessons in a really terrible way.
See Amish. They won’t learn any lessons and just spin death as natural and God’s will.
It started out as mostly pandering to their uneducated anti-vax base, but with fascists being in all levels of government now there are more conspiracy theorist true believers in office. So the dumber ones actually believe it, while the less dumb ones use it as a wedge issue to keep support (while being vaccinated themselves).
Even the fucking Nazis and Imperial Japanese understood that vaccines worked.
The Japanese in particular with Unite 731 even developed vaccines for the plague, then tested it by deliberating getting one unvaccinated group infected and another vaccinated group infected. The vaccinated group fared far better than the vaccinated group and had a much higher survivability rating.
The ideal model of the Fascist economy is get poors to pay taxes and then die when they can’t work any more.
I seriously think they want to reduce the population. And if you use disease and only allow the richest people to have access to vaccines, the poors and “undesirables” go first.
I truly think that it’s that sinister.
Build the wall! Around Florida!
Have fun watching your kids die. God bless America and all that jazz…