• Daftydux@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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    22 days ago

    I read: “checks and balances do not work”

    They arent working. Att least the checks and balances we have now.

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      22 days ago

      Yeah you can’t be taught about future failures of a system. The only way for it not be able to not be working is for humans to not be in the equation of government. Which is one of the reasons ai taking over does not scare me. Either they kill us all. Win for the planet. Or they run things properly. Win for everybody.

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        22 days ago

        They dont teach future failures but they do teach the robustness of our checks and balances.

        Which turns our to be not very.

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          Its incredibly robust. Its lasted over two hundred years through several constitutional crises. Its possible it might even survive this. Whats happening now required complacency of a majority of both houses of congress, a large swath of the judiciary, plus the executive. Thats pretty damn robust. Its like saying a bridge is not robust even though its stayed up when some of its supports got destroyed but once over half of them were taken out it finally started to crack.

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            22 days ago

            It didn’t last over two hundred years. It failed utterly in 1861 and wasn’t restored until 1865. That was only 160 years ago.

            It probably would’ve failed again in the 1930s but the Roosevelt Democrats were able to take control of both the legislative and executive branches and make the checks and balances irrelevant, and then the rest of the world bombed itself into the dirt, allowing America to become fat and rich enough that you didn’t notice the rot.

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            sure but there are holes in our entire constitutional process that you can drive a truck through. They work in certain cases, but in others they may as well not exist. Like ,impeachment barely works. And god knows a lot of our presidents should have been impeached. And the will of the people is not implemented by our government and hasn’t been for a long time, if ever.

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            22 days ago

            “Watches an orange buffoon turn the government into a authoritarian regime.”

            Its incredibly robust!

            Same time, “the American experiment”, “a young democracy”, “27 constitutional ammendments”, etc.