• WoodScientist@lemmy.world
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    14 days ago

    The concept of being trans is a relatively new thing, by historical timelines.

    The historical record for what we would now call transgender people goes back over 4,000 to Ancient Babylon. And that’s just the written historical record.

    • LousyCornMuffins@lemmy.world
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      14 days ago

      Yeah, we just called trans folk hermaphrodites or transexuals or some other words than we use now. Language has been fluid but the concept is not new. Hell, I grew up familiar with it and I was pretty naive.

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        13 days ago

        Hermaphrodites are a completely different thing. They are not trans, well I guess they could be but hermaphrodite is not what people used to call trans people.

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      14 days ago

      Ah fuck, I knew someone would be around to pick on that.

      Trans rights in Western culture is a new thing we gotta fight for. Fuck me, gay rights is a relatively new thing we still gotta fight for. Didn’t read my post? Were you not around when gay marriage was a sticking point? Like, 15-years ago? I know goddamned well the concept has existed since we were monkeys.

      Your comment is a perfect example of why conservatives hate holier-than-thou liberals. Pick up a rifle or STFU.

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        14 days ago

        Maybe edit the wording in the post to clarify that instead of writing this response.

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        13 days ago

        Sorry, but the attitudes you expressed have directly hurt the trans community in recent years. Hell, in the recent Skremetti case that saw the erosion of trans rights, even the liberal justices were completely ignorant about just how far back in time trans people go. The idea that trans people are a new phenomenon is directly harmful to our rights and safety.

        Look, fine if you want to LARP as an armed defender of freedom. But ultimately you’re just playing dress up. You may style yourself a defender of the rights of minorities, but you’re giving advice that is only applicable to someone in your position. 2nd Amendment rights effectively do not exist for members of many minority groups. What you’re allowed to get away with because you’re a middle aged cis white guy will result in members of other groups getting immediately shot by police.