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          I remember a little while ago when it was in the news for a very short time that they found several mass graves in PA of Irish who were brought over to be indentured servants. I don’t remember if they had determined what the cause of death was, whether it was illness or murder, but it stopped being news pretty quickly because no one really cared.

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    They’d still argue over religion. And what sports team they cheer for. And whatever else the billionaire owned media could decide to distract them with.

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      If I really wanted an excuse to hate people, I’d hate people who make dumb complaints about movies

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        People who can’t dont their blinkers

        People with no regard to those around them

        People who litter or don’t clean up after their dog

        The list goes on.

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        But To be fair, why was Gandalf the White just waiting around in the forest for Aragorn, Gimli and Legolas to stumble upon him?

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          Bro thought he was dead and in the wizard afterlife.

          Turns out he was already there. There is no escape frome middle earth for a wizard.

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    … that is not how race works.

    we already ARE the same race. we constructed differences to divide us, elevate ourselves and put down outsiders without having to accomplish anything.

    Imagine a world where everyone taller than 6 feet is considered a different social class. that’s race.

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      I get it and agree mostly. I definitely think socioeconomic classes are more of a defining/dividing line than a heritage you happen to share with someone.

      Only <1% of any humans DNA differs, but I think a better point is that everyone is atleast 50th cousins or something (Granted if you share a heritage its much closer)

      But also if you told someone like my girlfriend that race isn’t real she’d probably sock you. She’s experienced it and its very real to her.

      When we started dating I would actually try to talk about how I don’t understand why she would side with someone solely because their skin was dark like hers and it would be a point of contention. She would literally associate with someone that objectively did something she thinks is reprehensible because of literally only that. She grew up very wealthy and never hurt anyone, guy on the news was someone in and out of prison who literally fired first on the guy that revived him with narcan–but they happen to have the same color of skin.

      As a boy other Latinos would literally antagonize me for “acting white” because I would rather read during recess than play football/soccer–because being educated is associated with being white; we were the children of poor families with gangbangers as role models so we must obviously be destined for different things /s

      I feel like a lot of racial issues are cultural and self-perpetuating. But my girlfriend in particular was the only black woman in a white conservative town, people would open doors for her friends and close it when it came to her, If I visit her hometown she doesn’t want to be out for long, etc. So I get why it is very important to her.

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        socially constructed things are very real. I don’t know who the fuck let that fart out in our society, to make people think that when they hear “it’s a social construct” they hear “it’s not real!” pretty frustrating

        what it means is that it’s an arbitrary thing based on mostly nothing except history and all it would take to change it is for us to act differently towards it.

        but the history behind it is very real, so we can’t just eliminate race by pretending it isn’t real. we have to acknowledge the impacts, respect the differences, and work towards making the idea of race obsolete. that’ll probably take a few thousand years lol

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        The discrimination is real, no question about it.

        The thing that’s not “real” is that this is solely about skin color.

        In the USA race is defined quite closely along the lines of “continent of origin” (or of origin of the ancestors), because the USA Is a country with worldwide immigration. Thus the groups are larger.

        Compare that to Europe, where world-wide immigration only started picking up in the last two decades. Here people can discriminate just as easily within what would be considered the same race in the USA. For example, many people in Austria really hate Serbians. Many Serbians really hate Croatians. Many Croatians really hate Albanians and so on.

        This is also visible in the meaning of the words “race” and “racism”. Before WW2 “race” was commonly used in Europe as in the “German race”, the “English race” or the “French race”. And while the term “race” fell out of use after WW2 and was subsequently re-imported from the USA with the USA-meaning, the original meaning lives on in the meaning of “racism”.

        For example, if a French man hates all the English, this wouldn’t be racism in the USA (since both are from the same “race” by US-definition), it would totally be racism in most European languages.

        The “social construct” part of the discrimination is along which lines discrimination happens. There’s nothing “natural” about discriminating along the lines of US-race. Discrimination can happen just as viciously along any other line.

        And that certainly doesn’t mean people don’t suffer from it. But it also means that making sure everyone is as equal as possible (e.g. by eliminating US-race) won’t stop discrimination.

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    nah… equally looking people, indistinguishble from each other, have managed levels of hate high enough to attemp genocide

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    Let me tell you a bit bout a guy that I’ve seen.
    A man known as Sylvester McMonkey McBean.

    Every now and again he’d head towards the beaches
    Carting along his machine, for the sneeches.

    When did Dr. Seuss get so woke…

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    Idk man. The Sneetches “got really quite wise on that day”, but they still never guillotined Sylvester McMonkey McBean.

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    Any small difference in personality is gonna be used to justify what is wrong with the world.

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      They already use gender, sexuality, nationality, anything really. Race is just one of many strings on the harp of bigotry.

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      Absolutely. Religion, language, country of origin, gender, age, there’s no shortage of useless ways to divide people. Our differences aren’t the issue, the issue is the rich and powerful exploiting our differences to pit us against each other.

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      Indian hate goes up whenever india related policies go into effect, trump tarrifs india and no one gived a fk since all day see is normalized indian hate for months prior

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    There is only the human race. Any differences in appearance is less that a % of genetic difference.

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      Fun fact, there is more genetic variation within Africa than there is in the rest of the world combined. This is because only a small lineage of humans ended up migrating out of Africa.

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        “Our”

        I’ve ever only seen Americans and random racists use the term that way. Most of us agree that we’re one race.

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          Are you kidding? I’ve heard Scots and English vilely denegrate Welsh, Germans denegrate Saxons, English denigrate black people…on and on and on.

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            Black people denigrating blacker people, Indians denigrating darker Indians, and so on. Yeah, we’re tribal, evolved that way.

            These people all bent over the word “race”. Meh. Give it a rest. The word used to be in common parlance, now I never here it IRL, despite being told us Southerners are the most racist people on Earth.