• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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      15 days ago

      We lost the ability to exile sociopaths from the group and instead allowed them to breed. It’s s recent problem.

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        Exactly. We used to exile or execute them. Modern society is almost tailor made for a sociopath to thrive. They don’t have the same kind of internal moral compass that others do, so they don’t feel bad when they hurt people. They rely almost exclusively on external deterrents (and incentives). This means harsh sentences and high certainty of detection and conviction. Sadly many people have an ideological aversion to prison, and we’re seeing less and less per capita spending on law enforcement and prisons in the West.

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          Sadly many people have an ideological aversion to prison

          The aversion I’m aware of is Punishment vs. Rehabilitation vs. Isolation.

          Most crime is a direct result of poverty. Society should do it’s best to make sure we don’t have to weigh the moralality of stealing something you or your family need in order to survive and live a life of dignity. Those things should be provided.

          Right now we basically just let those in poverty suffer and punish any of them that extract wealth from others (more accurately those not in poverty) in an “uncivilized” manner (stealing)… while simultaneously revering those who extract wealth from others in a “civilized” manner (wage theft, poverty wages, fraud, deceptive marketing, rent seeking, anticompetitive practices, frivolous lawsuits, etc).

          Genuine dangers to society do need to be isolated. However, it’s important to at least try rehabilitation and addressing their needs before determining that someone is a genuine danger to society.

          There is also the free will argument - arguing that people are who they are, free will is an illusion, and punishment is pointless - but it honestly just comes to the same general conclusions. If you can modify the behavior of a person so that they are able to coexist in society then work to do so. If rehabilitation is not possible, keep the public safe from that person and deal with that person as humanely as possible.

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      We’ve got a good balance of socialism and capitalism here in Denmark. There are strengths and weaknesses of both. This is why modern societies have some combination of the two. Societies which try to go all in on any one ideology like communism tend to collapse.

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      Capitalism doesn’t have to be anti-collective. Under a working legal system, the “Tragedy of the Commons” can be stopped. No country has pure capitalism. Everywhere regulates it. Yes, some of it falls to regulatory capture, but not all, and that waxes and wanes.

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    Evolution has made us a lot of things, but mostly it made us cooperative beings. We have the ability to do all kinds of good, bad, and gray-area stuff, it’s more a matter of which of those behaviors our society pushes us towards.

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    I was banned from Reddit for saying that we needed to wipe psychopathy from the gene pool, in yet another exhausting example of how it’s more important to never do anything wrong than it is to do something right. So here we are… The human species is on a path to failure, with a chance of nuclear missiles falling soon. The next Winter might never end, but I’m glad the virtue signalers kept me from offending people

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      Psychopaths with a clinical diagnosis or just people you don’t agree with and then you label as “psychopath” for a justified extermination?

      How could even be property diagnosed if it’s known that a positive diagnosis would mean extermination?

      That’s a really dangerous approach, more likely to do far more wrong that right.

      We need a way to fix everything that’s wrong with humankind but I do not think that’s the way.

      You also should wary of those approaches, in a french revolution scenario of killing all but the true good people the revolutionaries always end up killing each other quite soon.

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      Replace psychopathy with autism and you have RFK Jr.

      You’re a fucking Nazi and you don’t even realise.

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        It’s not just that, it’s also that psychopaths are the subset of people who’d do such things. How do you make them remove themselves?