Sure, there was the attempted assassination of Reagan and the fears for Obama as the first black President, but in those cases it was a lone nutter rather than a conspiracy.
How long can Trump crash the market before an angry billionaire decides to take him out? The remaining Koch brother is already pouring money into legal challenges against Trump…
100% chance but mostly because i think that the plan
- Let trump do what he want
- Kill trump
- Put a puppet like vance in is place
- Use trump death to do what they want with the reason of stopping the big bad left
I’ve been saying this for months. How long until 47 “has a stroke.”
Had some polonium tea, fell out a window, then shot himself in the back of the head.
Corner’s report: Looks like suicide to me.
No it needs to be a murder done by “those loony lefties”, otherwise they can’t use it to lock up people like AOC and Bernie Sanders.
If youre in america, even as a tourist a few states allow you to buy guns because you dont need an id. That means, lets say a european goes to georgia for example, they could buy a gun and shoot trump without problem, in minecraft of course.
In Australia that was the case until around 1987. No permits for rifles. Some tourist from Germany went to Australia, bought a rifle and went on a shooting spree.
As an American, the craziest thing about that story is that Australia changed their gun laws after that happened. Imagine a government taking reasonable action to save lives… Wild.
One must entertain the notion that maybe this was intentionally perpetrated to bring about those laws, disarm the general populace.
Could have been a lone gunman psycho.
Could have been a planned event, psy-op.
No, one doesn’t have to entertain any such notion. And, one speaking like a monk doesn’t make one sound mysterious or intelligent…
What you’re essentially saying is, we should let something terrible continue to happen, causing many real people (often children) to actually die, because some people are paranoid about something that isn’t happening… In reality, government’s need their civilians. Especially in late-stage capitalist societies were civilians act as value generators or cannon fodder for the ruling class. The more people they have to feed into their profit machines, the better.
There are many counter arguments to the sentiment you shared that show how silly your stance is. I won’t waste my time writing all of them because I think you’re too steeped in your own soup to consider anything that counters what you already believe.
i still wonder. HOW DID THAT ONE GUY MISS?!
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Range - Trump was over
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Equipment - AR pattern rifles ( I think it was a Daniel defense) with a red dot sight. That setup is for quick target acquisition and field of view. It is not meant for hitting distant targets.
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Shooting conditions - The shots were taken outdoors, where there was a cross breeze.
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Difficult Target - if you’ve ever seen trump on stage, he has this weird wobble he does all the time, which shifts his head rapidly and unpredictably from side to side multiple feet. He had to get hit in the head too. He probably was wearing soft body armor at this point, and there are multiple ambulances nearby and he gets priority medical care. Anything less than instantly lethal would not take him out. So it had to be a headshot.
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Counter-fire. There are multiple trained and properly equipped snipers guarding trump. There was an armed policeman trying to get on the building with the shooter. This is not simply lying down at a range and taking your time.
TL; DR - it’s not like videogames.
Range - Trump was over 300 yards away from the shooter.
He was around 150 yards. Not 300.
But if he had a proper target rifle in a better long range caliber and a telescopic sight he would have had a much better chance of succeeding.
At that distance and wind conditions a chest shot would have been better. But he aimed for the head.
Fixed, thank you.
Chest shot wouldn’t work. Like I said, at that point in the campaign, the former president has secret service protection and was probably wearing soft armor underneath. Even then, you would need a hit that is instantly lethal. If you hit the lung, liver, or even a major blood vessel, and he still lives because he has priority medical care on standby, so you would need to hit the heart to get the job done. Heart is smaller than head.
Even with soft body armor. A high velocity round like the .300 win mag or 6.5 creedmoor with boat tail JHPs would still zip through like nothing is there. The cavitation that those rounds make is devastating. Also the shooter tried to go for a follow up shot but missed. Double hitting the chest would have been more possible and that would be much more likely to do it.
I am aware of the circumstances that president’s and ex-presidents have in terms of medical support. All of his bodyguards are probably EMT level trained and they probably have a full on trauma team ready. But getting the head under those circumstances would have been tough.
But then again… if he did have a proper target rifle and long range caliber… the head would have been easier to hit and maybe the wind wouldn’t have blown it off course as much.
Was he using 300-win or 6.5? From what I heard it was 223 or 5.56.
He was using a .223.
The rifle he used was a cheap, bottom of the line AR-15. The AR-15s are so popular and made by so many manufacturers that they have super low end and super high end. He had on the lower end.
I do not know what kind of .223 he was using. But that round has been experimented with for so long that there is a load for every occasion. He probably didn’t use decent ammo. You need something that is specifically designed for longer range, precision shooting. The rounds are much more expensive but you do get what you are paying for.
He also used iron sights. No scope. And he was not known as a particularly good shot. It is actually surprising how close he came.
BTW, the .223 would still have penetrated soft body armor even at that distance. Even military vests designed for combat zones don’t stop rifle rounds until it is fired from a few hundred meters. It would not have stopped a .223 to the chest.
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