[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:30] Oh no, look… It’s half to Hitler
[yellow, annoyed] Chill out buddy, don’t be such an alarmist
[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:45] Oh no, look… It’s quarter to Hitler
[yellow, rude] Yeah I get it, I tweeted about it, leave me be
[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:55] Oh no, look… It’s five to Hitler
[yellow, scared] Oh shit oh fuck, we really need to do something NOW
[green, pointing to a clock with Hitler above it, that reads 11:59] Oh shit, look… It’s one to Hitler
[yellow, terrified] It’s too late now, wish we could have seen it coming earlier
The thing is no one, literally no one, could have seen this coming.
His first term was text book in political perfection, and then he goes and does a 720 kickflip and gets all tyrannical and dictator-ish.
You know who really caused all this? Obama’s second daughter, that’s who. She’s the leader of the Illuminati, I tell ya.
Well done. I had to stop mid read to read that again because I couldn’t believe my eyes
Textbook in political perfection?!
Don’t you remember the first thing he did in 2017 was ban all foreigners from entering the country, and thank goodness we still had checks-and-balances back then because the REAL people running the country shut down that idea real damn quick.
What I want to know is what happened to the checks & balances?! They do not seem to be in place anymore.
You’ve been whooosh’d. Sorry.
I thought the 720 kickflip and the Obama’s daughter being the leader of the Illuminati remarks would mean I didn’t need the /s.
Ah thank you for clarifying. I honestly only made it to the second paragraph and enjoyed the metaphorical 720 kickflip imagery.
I think part of the joke was that a kickflip does not involve any change of direction for the skater.
Oh. Yeah that’s funny too then 🤭
Liberal apathy is how you get to Hitler.
Apparently they do not understand the Paradox of Tolerance, or they’re motivated to ignore it.
Liberal apathy is how you get to Hitler.
At an executive level, sure.
But the dogged insistence that fascism just happens and nobody does anything about it ignores the armies of protestors, the various pushback at state and local levels, the independent media rallying opposition, and the multiple assassination attempts on fascist figures.
This is in stark contrast to Dem political leadership, who seem to think Donnie is just another guy you make deals with.
they do not understand the Paradox of Tolerance
For the DC elites, they do. They just can’t decide whether Trump is really a problem or merely a fundraising vehicle.
For the propes, urgency exists, but not the power to do anything about it
Nice sentiment, not based in reality though.
Voters are guided by their own personal circumstances, often punishing leaders when economic conditions worsen and rewarding them when they improve, paying little heed to the politician’s actions.
In other words, voters are morons.
Remember, half of American voters can’t read better than a middle school student
It’s more than half actually
Nah, this road was inevitable for the US - liberal apathy is a nonsense; it suggests US voters had a choice or a say - they don’t and never have. The two parties overlap in their beliefs - there has never been true choice. There was the veneer of democracy, but the system has been rigged for decades if not a century or more. There are 2 parties who have dominated in every state and at every level, and play voters off against each other. Anyone interested in politics has no choice but to join the red team or the blue team - if they don’t they’ll never achieve anything. The 2 parties have pushed beyond first-past-the-post to extremes with gerrymandering to ensure no 3rd party will ever get a look in. The Democrats and Republicans have written all the rules to suite themselves, and it’s ended up that the extreme end of one party can dominate the lot and do what it wants.
1/3 of voters vote Democrat, 1/3 Republican and 1/3 don’t vote because why bother. The US President has immense power, and their primary checks and balances are entirely partisan and always have been. The Supreme Court has always been partisan with Democrat and Republican political appointees, and Congress is by it’s nature partisan and divided in 2 between the 2 parties due to the entire system. The players of the game have set all the rules.
If you want to see what comes next, look at Russia. It never had a strong system post communism, and Yeltsin was drunk and out of touch with reality towards the end of his tenure. Putin was his advisor and managed to manipulate Yeltsin and make himself his heir apparent. Putin has then gone on to dismantle even the semblance of democracy they had, becoming a dictator and now an aggressor invading country after country. And unlike Hitler, his opponents in the west are divided.
Trump is a disaster, but what we should all be really worried about is what comes next. Trump is the USA’s Yeltsin; it’s the US Putin who comes next we should all be terrified of.
I honestly don’t see any way back from the abyss in the USA. Anyone who wants to stop Trump of course has to vote Democrat because that’s the system. But whose to say the US Putin won’t be a Democrat? Red team or Blue team - it doesn’t matter; neither believe in democracy they just believe in the game.
US Voters had a choice and a say and a plurality voted for literal Hitler while almost 9 Million people who voted hitler out in 2020 didn’t show up at all for 2024.
Too bad we didn’t have people like you to fix it for us. Tell us, how did you fight the Nazis this week?
By Liberals, I assume the people who were saying that Gaza didn’t matter if Trump got elected again?
I’d mean all the people dumb enough to get Trump elected by thinking you could beat him by espousing almost exactly his policies. Who wants Trump-lite when you could have the real thing?
Nice way to let off all the people who didn’t vote against Trump.
“We thought Harris would be exactly the same!!”
Could you conceive of a world where they voted against Trump but also against genocide?
It’s been almost a year can you really not just accept that you were wrong and that sacking up and voting for Kamala would have been the correct move?
Sorry, it’s kind of a “human” thing to not vote for genocide.
Well congrats on your pyrrhic victory of not voting.
Yes, but not voting lead to the beginning of a hispanic genocide in the states, so im not really sure they cared all that much when they just made genocide bigger and more expansive
Reprehensible as it is, we’ve seen no evidence of a Hispanic genocide (yet). The scale isn’t there, and there’s active internal pushback. It doesn’t benefit the corporate class so it likely has a shelf-life. Whether the pushback comes to anything or halts creeping fascism remains to be seen, but such a concept is currently completely hypothetical.
The Gaza genocide however, is real, and may still be happening. Also, big difference between “not voting” and “not voting for your corporate party prescribed candidates”.
I can conceive of anything.
But what I conceive wouldn’t be the reality of the last election.
Here are two examples of people doing politics. Take notes.
Frederick Douglas was an escaped slave. In 1860 he had a choice; speak out for the strongly pro-abolition candidate, or back Lincoln, who was not going to call for immediate abolition. Douglas figured that it was better to back Lincoln and have the President’s ear, than to back a candidate who had no chance of winning.
Martin Luther King’s top assistant was a gay Black man named Bayard Ruskin. Ruskin never put himself forward, even though he was a vital part of the Movement. He knew that America wasn’t ready to accept LGBTQ issues at that time, so he stayed silent.
So, can you conceive of looking at things dispassionately and playing the long game?
Playing “the long game” on genocide is effectively actively murdering people, especially when previous administrations have actually employed the “yank the chain” policy on israel. There is no long game here, there’s genocide or no genocide.
As we speak, the genocide is ongoing. So nothing you advocate actually helped.
You can stamp your feet and scream all you want, but ignoring the facts does nothing.
It’s one year past Hitler. That ship has sailed.
Hitler? … What are you talking about? … we need to have full blown genocidal war, concentration camps where millions are murdered every day, mass military invasions of countries, nuclear war and complete lawlessness throughout the land with people murdering, raping and mutilating each other … anything less than that is not yet Hitler.
So stop your alarmism all the time, it’s not yet Hitler.
I think everyone down voting you missed the sarcasm. This post is about not yet Hitler but they don’t like your not yet Hitler.
Also, Hitler shoots himself in the head while his wife dies from cyanide poisoning, so not yet Hitler
Exactly … the world won’t admit it to being a fully fascist state of affairs until the entire world is literally falling apart and people are dying by the tens of thousands or millions due to war, genocide, famine, death and destruction.
Until then, everyone will keep arguing that things aren’t that bad yet
Nah, even that wouldn’t be Hitler. Hitler is a concept that can never be met or exceeded in real life. Hitler is always worse. /s
Also realistically nobody except centrists have any actual ideas on what to do about it. And even the centrists’ main idea is mostly “be more centrist, assholes”. Which totally would work, but is not very actionable for the problematic people.
No, they saw it coming. They voted for it.
Most of this massive amount of “they” you’re talking about it have a completely different view what is happening right now.
Hitler is at 08:08, not 00:00
It’s not only the orange guy. The ‘Oh no, look’ guy isn’t helpful either. If people don’t react correctly, the behavior should be adjusted.
I thing a more relevant comic would be if both people understand it’s about to be hitler and neither of them can agree on what to do about it, resulting in Hitler.
Godwin’s law!
That’s funny, I was just coming to comment about remembering when Godwin’s law was a thing, and about how I wonder, now, if it helped contribute towards protecting the slow, continual growth of fascist ideology. Nazi thinkers not getting called out on their Nazi thoughts by invoking this made up rule.
Half to Hitler
This applies just as well to Israel’s increasingly violent ethno-Fascism ending up in a Genocide about to turn into a new Holocaust, as it applies to the US’ empoverishment, explosion of inequality and collapse of social mobility which together with the domination of various pillars of Democracy by the moneyed elites made the election of a Fascist Populist a certainty.
The toon on the right is obviously a US-style Liberal - the last part (“Too late now, nothing we can do”) is especially telling.
Israel started as a genocidal state, it continued as a genocidal state, and it still is a genocidal state. Settler Colonialism is genocide.
Thankfully, Orange shit is much older compared to Hitler and will not outlive most of us. Problem is what’s coming after and the cleanup.
If you think this ends with trump then good news, you will have no idea whats going to happen in 13 months.
13? I’d say 1 or 2.
Yeah it’s more like “hey guys trump is going very corrupt billionaire that has nothing in common with you” to “trump lied to your face about releasing the Epstien files”
If everything is Hitler, what do you say when it’s worse?
Have you noticed how everything is “fascism” now? The moment something feels uncomfortable, authoritarian, or just leans right of centre, the comments fill up with people screaming “fascist!” and farming upvotes. A word that once described one of the darkest movements in human history is now just shorthand for “stuff I don’t like.”
Fascism used to mean something specific, dictatorship, violent nationalism, suppression of dissent, and the merging of state and corporate power. Now it’s a moral trump card used by everyone, left and right alike. Online, it’s not about accuracy or understanding anymore. It’s about performance. Say the right buzzword, get the digital applause.
But when you call everything fascism, you stop recognising the real thing when it shows up. You dull people’s instincts. When actual authoritarian behaviour appears(censorship, personality cults, or persecution) nobody listens. They’ve already heard “the sky is falling” too many times.
The bigger problem, though, is that this kind of rhetoric kills any hope of conversation. Call someone a fascist, and that’s it. Discussion over. You’re not debating ideas anymore, you’re excommunicating people. Democracy needs dialogue, but online we’ve replaced curiosity with condemnation.
It’s been nearly ten years of this now. Ten years of the “culture wars.” Since Trump came down that elevator, both sides have been locked in the same cycle of outrage and self-righteousness. The “woke” call the “alt-right” fascists; the “alt-right” call the “woke” fascists. Each side sees itself as freedom’s last defence, and the other as tyranny incarnate. And in the middle? Just a lot of people too exhausted to care anymore.
You all wear your outrage like team colours. You look for the buzzwords that tell you which side something’s on. You check the upvotes to know which way your moral compass should point. You don’t want to understand; you want to win. And when you lose, you tell yourself it’s because the other side cheated.
Meanwhile, trust collapses. Institutions crumble. Every election becomes an existential crisis. And we sit here, screaming “fascist!” at strangers online while the world quietly rots behind the noise.
Ten years of not talking to each other. Ten years of anger, fear, and empty moral theatre. Ten years of the culture war. Ten years of virtue signalling. Ten years of using minorities as props in this tragic pantomime of dog shit.
What a bunch of fucking fascists…
Thats a nice chatgpt for “I haven’t read the news or Umberto Eco’s Ur-Fascism.”
Thats a nice “Im ignorant as fuck” for I didnt read that, and anything I read that I dont like is AI.
I mean, even if it was AI. Would the message be any less relevant? That talking is better than abusing? That sharing ideas and opinions, is better than just calling people names and shouting them down? Why in the blue fuck would it matter who said that?
Go on then, give me your argument against talking in favour of being a cunt to strangers. Explain to me how its better to attack people, than to talk with them to try to sort out differences. And remember, youre arguing for the right and left of the culture wars.
I mean, even if it was AI. Would the message be any less relevant?
Yes, obviously.
Have you noticed how everything is “fascism” now?
No, I noticed fascism being called fascism.
Fascism used to mean something specific, dictatorship, violent nationalism, suppression of dissent, and the merging of state and corporate power.
…you are paying attention to current events in the US, right?
And were you not paying attention to the last 10 years of telling everyone that it was worst it was ever going to be? Do you really not get what it is that you have all done to yourselves? Do you really not understand the point of talking to people instead of attacking them?
In 2016, when Trump won, everyone was shocked. Why? Because of the echo chambers. Echo chambers created because “the left” would attack anyone who even dared ask a question that wasnt “orange man bad”. So instead of being able to reach those people and convince them of your argument, you drove them into silence. Or worse, you drove them into right wing echo chambers that told them it was going to be fine.
The worst thing your side of the culture war ever said was “Its not my job to educate you.”. Because “your side” of the culture wars is the same as “their side”. Its about winning, not talking, not fighting the good fight. Its about winning, and dog piling. Case and point, this fucking post.
I was specifically talking about how you defined fascism in your post. That’s why I quoted it directly.
You posted criteria for what constitutes fascism. And the current US administration ticks all of your boxes.
Does it? Did it also tick all those boxes in 2016, when you were all calling everyone a nazi and cunt? You know, why you could actually have talked to them and convinced them of your argument before you made this all so much worse?
Maybe try reading ALL of what I said, and not skimming it just so you can try to win something here.
Brilliant. Hey Genius, did you know Hitler joined the German Worker’s Party in 1919? That he was appointed as Chancellor of Germany in 1933? That he invaded Poland in 1939?
Tell me, deep thinker, during those 20 years, when do YOU think it was appropriate to start calling Hitler a fascist?
How about when people do fascist shit, we call them out for fascist behavior? Oh, and FFS learn how to summarize.
Remember when Trump got into power in 2016, and everyone said it was the end of everything… except that it wasnt. Remember that? Remember when people didnt really know any better, and instead of talking to them and trying to convince them, you called them names and shut them down? Remember when this was pointed out to you, and you just said “Its not my job to educate you”? Are you getting it yet?
I note the spelling “right of centre”. So help me out here: are you Canadian, British, Australian, Kiwi, …? So when you say “everything that just leans right of centre is called fascist” what the fuck are you actually talking about? In your specific political context?
You note my spelling, but not the message… American politics in a nutshell. Thanks for proving my point.
I’m Canadian, buddy. Which is why I asked about your political context.
That doesnt, at all, explain why you choose to ask about that while ignoring the content of what I was saying.
It does. The centre-left in Montreal municipal politics corresponds to the left wing of the left in Canadian federal politics. So if I write a long diatribe lamenting how the centre left in Montreal is not progressive enough, and send it over to someone in Alberta, they would have no idea what I’m talking about.
Cool. You win. Youre right. Im wrong. All is right in the world. You can sleep soundly in your bed tonight. Take care.
Right? Wrong?
I asked you a question, I didn’t make an argument or assert a position.
This is surreal. It’s like:
You: why does everyone say good afternoon when it’s only 12:30?!
Me: what time zone are you in buddy?
You: you didn’t answer my question!
Me: I mean, China for example is all on the same timezone regardless of how west or east you are.
You: FINE. YOU’RE RIGHT. I’M WRONG. HAPPY?
Me: wtf man, I just asked you your fucking timezone.
