still better than ios lol
Nah, /e/os and GrapheneOS rule!
I’m an /e/os user and all I can say is even though it sucks the least among its competition, it STILL SUCKS! Not to downplay the immense effort put in by the devs and maintainers of course. Providing a privacy-respecting phone OS to ordinary people isn’t just a good deed, it’s necessary for a vibrant and diverse digital society. But still, we can all strive for better.
Define, “sucks”
The complaints I see about custom OS the most:
- Bank or payment apps don’t work due to Play Integrity API (blame Google)
- Some other Google apps don’t work correctly (well… duh)
- Obscure functionality that is usually overlooked or intentionally ignored, but is a complete dealbreaker for that user.
i never experienced point 2 or 3 in all my years of using them.
the problem for me is usually integrity api.
My banking app works on GrapheneOS. It didn’t even need any of the compatibility settings to be turned. My experience has been smoother than the Android shipped with the device. I barely use Google apps apart from yt and haven’t found any obscure issues yet. Is GrapheneOS just really good compared to others or did I get lucky with my bank and the features I use?
My bank app doesn’t work with Graphene, which is a pain in the arse, but not the end of the world. I mean, they still have a website I can log into.
Oh, I need mine to verify who I am. I do the other things on the website vie my computer though.
GrapheneOS has been working flawlessly for me for years. Highly recommend!
Check out crDroid. I do not know how it’s like to daily drive it, but afaik it’s highly customizable.
Just one problem. Both are still dependent on Google and Android-based. How sustainable is that security model when a company has the say-so over whether you get to flash your custom firmware next year, or the next year, or maybe the year after that?
Right! just look how locked down android has become since the early/mid 2000’s.
You don’t even have full control of your sd card anymore (if you’re lucky enough to actually have a phone with an sd slot.)
Tfw your Phone has no ROM and the stock one is trash.
I am currently considering switching to a 3rd custom rom on my xiaomi since both of the ones I have tried while better than the stock one by miles, seem to have no activity surrounding them (one was last updated almost 2 years ago and the one I am currently on has been updated in october).
Just sucks that its notsuch a mainline phone rhat gets lota of custom ROM support.
But Linux for mobile exists, it is just not popular. For instance you can install Ubuntu Touch on certain phones.
This one right here, officer! They did it!
If only Arch Linux ARM existed… ;(
I don’t expect Arch Linux ARM to have wider support than Ubuntu Touch or postmarketOS.
The later 2 projects aim to support Android devices, while (based on my understanding) Arch Linux ARM mainly targets SBCs (single board computers), like Raspberry Pi.
Arch Linux ARM nowadays, probably, also serves as a base for Asahi, but this does not help with Android device compatibility.
:(
But ubuntu SUCKS.
As a Debian and NixOS user, I can confirm that Ubuntu sucks
Yeah, like the Nexus 5. Not anything you’d want to actually use today.
I looked into Ubuntu Touch last week as a potential alternative to Graphene on my Pixel 9.
The most recent Pixel it supports is the 3.
So Graphene it is then…
Graphene so far is the slickest one.
Honestly I want Linux VOLTE so bad, the dream is to run sailfish os
I want this too but I don’t get how you can call something like LineageOS dogshit.
It works perfectly.
I’m a desktop user mostly but my phone feels like the more polished experience
For sure. One or two super paranoid banking apps but literally everything else works great with microg.
I’ve even ditched microg a few years back.
Depending on your usage it might not be an option, but for me it didn’t make any difference
Phosh has a great UI, I genuinely love it – I’m just not thrilled by my phone’s battery life when running any mobile linux
Make a
/systemsymlink and copy the drivers over?different kernel version, no?
Oh, right. The main problem slipped my mind.
I mean you might be right, android kernels aren’t that far off mainline these days. Copying the dtb might genuinely work
idk I enjoy LineageOS
achtually, every Android phone is using the Linux kernel
still better than ios lol
Yeah android has termux, termux is amazing, I run emacs in it and have all the power of org mode on my phone!
Yeah I am thinking of just don’t care about phones. Just the cheapest second hand thing I can get for calls, sms, ssh, vlc.
Maps would be nice, OsmAnd crashes frequently (out of memory?) on the tablet I got second hand.
We need custom hardware imo.
I’m only using iOS because android is worse. Neither of them make me happy. IOS is just less terrible than Android.
The problem with a Linux phone is that there’s no market for it, and developing one is only possible if you fundamentally change what a Linux phone means thereby ruining it but getting profitability and therefore carrier support and manufacturer profitability.
We don’t get what we want. They do.
Gabe please make Linux mobile phone.
Where would you even find a phone without a locked bootloader to even try this on other than a pixel, because, a google phone, to degoogle, really ? lol!
Volla phone has unlocked bootloader and ships with android or linux, some even have nativ dualboot
Interesting you should ask. It turns out that LineageOA has an entire page giving you options of compatible devices…
